Maine Commuter Rail

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ExCon90
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Re: Maine Commuter Rail

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Also between Oceanside and Escondido in California and on the RiverLINE between Camden and Trenton. It essentially depends on whether the freight customers can live with cars being pulled and placed only during midnight hours.

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Re: Maine Commuter Rail

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"Temporal separation" is not an option in Portland. You can't mix heavy rail passenger trains with light rail.
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Re: Maine Commuter Rail

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I would like to think that an RDC or two would be sufficient? Heck if the state is really serious, they can purchase a derelict RDC, strip the thing completely down to its barebones and rebuild it into a modern, environmentally friendly, self powered rail car.

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Re: Maine Commuter Rail

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Like the solar-powered Byron Bay Train in Australia?
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Re: Maine Commuter Rail

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I was thinking more traditional clean diesel engines but if Solar technology can work why not. If they strip the car down to just the frame and shell you essentially have a clean slate to work with, obviously you'll still need a 2nd power source for night time and cloudy day operations but if solar works why not go for it. At the end of the day it seems this would be the most logical choice for the state to proceed. Pan Am isn't going to park their trains all day long and can you even have Amtrak on the same tracks with light rail?

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Re: Maine Commuter Rail

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No. Amtrak is heavy rail. Heavy rail does not mean freight.
Why do we drive on parkways and park in driveways?

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Re: Maine Commuter Rail

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Exactly.
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Re: Maine Commuter Rail

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riffian wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2019 12:13 pm
"I've been told on another forum here that light rail--probably the best option--is not allowable in Portland, ME on this line because freight trains run on it."
"Yes, of course freight and light cannot operate on the same lines.'

Except, they do when separated by times of service, ala San Diego. Freights run at night after light rail operations end.
Of course, and even closer to home for most here - Guilford operated on the trolley tracks in Lowell into the late 80s to serve the mills.

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Re: Maine Commuter Rail

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daybeers wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:38 pm
Like the solar-powered Byron Bay Train in Australia?
Interesting website! Aluminum body cars that are lighter than "Light Rail" cars, built by former WWII aircraft builder in Australia. Similar to RDC. Solar powered seems exciting, except most of the panels are on their building, only a few on the train, and they are connected to the grid which is providing "only renewable energy". Still, they claim to produce net surplus power. Basically it's lithium-ion battery powered, with regenerative braking recovering 25% of the power used during acceleration, operating with only one engine, the other truck having a 1973 Cummins "very clean burning" diesel for emergency use. No mention about whether the train is heated!

Obviously these won't meet FRA standards, so just lease some of the RDC's from VT. And set up a wood-to-synfuel refinery.

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Re: Maine Commuter Rail

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Pretty impressive number for a local scheduled bus line. You can make up you own mind if this is positive or negative for increased rail service.
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Re: Maine Commuter Rail

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I find it interesting that passenger rail has now become the yardstick by which success is measured ... "How times change" ...
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Re: Maine Commuter Rail

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Where is this data that they talk about but never reference?

daybeers
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Re: Maine Commuter Rail

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From Concord Coach Lines? It's a private company, so we just have to believe their numbers...if that's what you're talking about. It's great more people are taking the bus (in some ways, especially with the old GE engines, the buses have a lower carbon footprint), but bad for the Downeaster.
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Re: Maine Commuter Rail

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A private bus company with public subsidies.

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Re: Maine Commuter Rail

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Note in photo caption - the bus is going directly to South station in Boston. It would appear that there is enough bus to train traffic to warrant this service.

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