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These proposals remind me of all the grand ideas MTA had for extending various subway lines in the early 1970's. And very little of that ever got done.

Thanks guys. I hope SEPTA will at some point install Key Vending Machines at Levittown and Langhorne. Otherwise how will passengers be able to get Key cards at those stations where they now buy them from the ticket agents? Limiting access to purchasing by only having the machines at Center City stat...

On a recent trip to the Philadelphia area I used the Levittown Station. I was surprised to see that the ticket office is a separate temporary-looking structure next to the new station building itself. Why would a permanent ticket office not have been included in the original design and construction ...

Point taken rdr2253 . You're right, and I hadn't realized they are only single head signals. I just watched cab-ride videos in both directions and it seems that even approaching a diverging route, a single green or yellow is displayed. Could be different signal rules are in effect in the Grand Centr...

The 1963 cars on the Red Line were crappy to begin with and I was glad to see them go. But the 1800's are nice cars that I wish would be overhauled and kept in-service for the foreseeable future. And who knows LOL? If the CRRC order continues the way it's going, maybe that will actually end up happe...

I don't see a "48".

What does that annoying beeping signify ? That the doors are open?

Am I reading that right?!!? Over 6 billion dollars to build a mile and a half of subway. Who would have thought? I hope it's worth the expense.........

Negative. The signals in the GCT tunnel are not reduced-aspect signals. They are conventional color-light signals showing standard signal aspects. The same as they now have in Harold Interlocking.

From everything being said here, it appears that things haven't changed too much on Septa from the days of the old fare system, which someone on here once called "Byzantine". LOL

Railroading is a pretty old business; been around since the 1800's. So now in the 21st Century we can't even get something as simple as the track gauge correct on a new project? If we can't even build a railroad track correctly we've got a much bigger problem I'd say. :( Shades of the Big Dig..........

Thanks for all the help guys.

I'm taking a trip to the Phila area in a few weeks and I have a couple of dumb questions: First, if I buy a key card at an outlying station with a staffed ticket office (like Langhorne), will the clerk selling me the card also be able to load a round-trip fare to Center-City or an Independence Pass ...

And how the hell was that allowed to happen? Wasn't this designed by professional engineers who presumably would have taken that into account? :( And if the spec's were right, but the installation was done out of spec, then who was supervising and inspecting the work? Shouldn't the deviation from sp...

How can they have track defects on such a recently built railroad?