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Re: A good example of why RR's lost pasenger service

 by PassRailSavesFuel ¦  Thu Jan 06, 2011 7:21 pm ¦  Forum: Operations, Facilities, Maps and Resources ¦  Topic: A good example of why RR's lost pasenger service ¦  Replies: 63 ¦  Views: 12063

I would love to see amtrak go the way of conrail. that would be a good one,but nobody could make a private MONEY MAKING business out of it. nuff said It's never allowed any volume in any business unit, so it only gets fixed costs. The only volume they have is in the hopeless Northeast Corridor. Whi...

Re: A good example of why RR's lost pasenger service

 by PassRailSavesFuel ¦  Tue Jan 04, 2011 1:34 pm ¦  Forum: Operations, Facilities, Maps and Resources ¦  Topic: A good example of why RR's lost pasenger service ¦  Replies: 63 ¦  Views: 12063

Just as fun trivia - the "real" folks flying that American Airways journey between Chicago and New York back in 1933 would have paid a whopping $1,820 for a round-trip ticket (in today's dollars) and taken ~6.5 hrs each way... in the mid 50's, it would cost $5-700 and take 3.5-5 hrs. Toda...

Re: A good example of why RR's lost pasenger service

 by PassRailSavesFuel ¦  Mon Jan 03, 2011 8:24 pm ¦  Forum: Operations, Facilities, Maps and Resources ¦  Topic: A good example of why RR's lost pasenger service ¦  Replies: 63 ¦  Views: 12063

thanks for pointing that out,as long as planes are faster and cheaper rail has no chance for mass travel long distance. All we have to do is have the airlines build their own airports, and maintain the air traffic control system. And of course pay for the security costs. You do know that the few tr...

Re: A good example of why RR's lost pasenger service

 by PassRailSavesFuel ¦  Fri Dec 31, 2010 4:35 pm ¦  Forum: Operations, Facilities, Maps and Resources ¦  Topic: A good example of why RR's lost pasenger service ¦  Replies: 63 ¦  Views: 12063

Passenger rail is very popular today and in demand. The long distance trains and all trains are doing pretty well even in the past recession of the past years. Amtrak has been breaking ridership records year after year. Powerful lobby's in Washington and the state capitols are holding the industry b...

Re: A good example of why RR's lost pasenger service

 by PassRailSavesFuel ¦  Fri Dec 31, 2010 4:14 pm ¦  Forum: Operations, Facilities, Maps and Resources ¦  Topic: A good example of why RR's lost pasenger service ¦  Replies: 63 ¦  Views: 12063

Good points everybody. I think this is relevant to New York State since the NYCRR was number 2 in passenger volume (after the dreaded PRR) in the whole country. Much of that traffic was in New York State. My basic point was that passenger trains cannot compete with jet aircraft for distances over a...

Re: A good example of why RR's lost pasenger service

 by PassRailSavesFuel ¦  Fri Dec 31, 2010 4:06 pm ¦  Forum: Operations, Facilities, Maps and Resources ¦  Topic: A good example of why RR's lost pasenger service ¦  Replies: 63 ¦  Views: 12063

I think that if the airlines had to truly pay their costs - airports, air traffic control, what have you, the railroads might still have had a much larger piece of middle distance travel - 500-1000 miles. Longer distance travel would have been for those who could afford the fare, which would not ha...

Re: A good example of why RR's lost pasenger service

 by PassRailSavesFuel ¦  Fri Dec 31, 2010 3:59 pm ¦  Forum: Operations, Facilities, Maps and Resources ¦  Topic: A good example of why RR's lost pasenger service ¦  Replies: 63 ¦  Views: 12063

I'm still in suport of trains even thow I have never been on one as a passenger. I'm planing to go to Denver, CO on Amtrak in a few months I think it will be fun. This would be a first time on Amtrak for me! This popular train the "California Zephyr" can and does sometimes sell out. It al...

Re: A good example of why RR's lost pasenger service

 by PassRailSavesFuel ¦  Fri Dec 31, 2010 3:50 pm ¦  Forum: Operations, Facilities, Maps and Resources ¦  Topic: A good example of why RR's lost pasenger service ¦  Replies: 63 ¦  Views: 12063

But the basic fact is that you can travel from New York City to Los Angeles (only one typical example) in 5 hours by plane versus 3 days by train. No amount of spending will change this basic equation. Even if we could afford 300 mph high speed trains it would still takes DAYS (or a major fraction ...

Re: LV on YouTube

 by PassRailSavesFuel ¦  Fri Dec 24, 2010 4:07 pm ¦  Forum: Lehigh Valley Railroad ¦  Topic: LV on YouTube ¦  Replies: 6 ¦  Views: 3968

JhnZ33 wrote:A few more LV videos on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cW2mc7B6PU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0x2YsBpKaGc
Thank you very much, really enjoyed these video's.

Re: LV on YouTube

 by PassRailSavesFuel ¦  Thu Dec 23, 2010 2:04 am ¦  Forum: Lehigh Valley Railroad ¦  Topic: LV on YouTube ¦  Replies: 6 ¦  Views: 3968

Slightly filmed before I was born (barely) and worth watching. Only the addition of sound would have made it better. The engineer wearing a tie to work and men walking around the crowd smoking cigars. A good time had by all. The shame is....Today the "Black Diamond" would be as popular as...

Lehigh Valley Marker lights.

 by PassRailSavesFuel ¦  Thu Dec 23, 2010 1:37 am ¦  Forum: Lehigh Valley Railroad ¦  Topic: Lehigh Valley Marker lights. ¦  Replies: 1 ¦  Views: 2509

I just saw a former LV Marker light is was a yellow color. (Painted Yellow) Did this mean anything. Or were all LV markers that color?

Re: RDG 'Wall Street' coach question

 by PassRailSavesFuel ¦  Thu Dec 23, 2010 1:33 am ¦  Forum: Central Railroad Company of New Jersey ¦  Topic: RDG 'Wall Street' coach question ¦  Replies: 3 ¦  Views: 6402

Mike@IHP wrote:Thanks, I'll give that a try!
Mike Bartel
Did you find any thing out about the trucks of the "Wall Street" cars. I think you were talking about the 2000 series cars.? I also think they were called Commomwealth All Spring Trucks. Lance Erickson

Re: LV cabooses in Milan, PA

 by PassRailSavesFuel ¦  Sun Nov 14, 2010 8:05 pm ¦  Forum: Lehigh Valley Railroad ¦  Topic: LV cabooses in Milan, PA ¦  Replies: 11 ¦  Views: 13297

Nice pics guys. Thanks for posting! I wish I saw this thread a week ago. I drove up to visit family in Lockwood NY, and went right by here on 220. If I knew about this, it would've given me something to do while sitting in construction traffic coming home Tues, Aug 10. Warning: Rt 220 has a couple ...

Re: Former CNJ RDCs in danger of being scrapped?

 by PassRailSavesFuel ¦  Sun Nov 14, 2010 7:58 pm ¦  Forum: Central Railroad Company of New Jersey ¦  Topic: Former CNJ RDCs in danger of being scrapped? ¦  Replies: 2 ¦  Views: 6388

According to the POTB website, ex-CNJ 553 stills shows on their active roster under "Other Locomotives" as operational. There is no mention of 552 that I could find. Five SD-9's were scrapped in 2009. http://www.trainweb.org/potb/roster4.html So it"s November now, what happened? Did ...

Re: CNJ Newark Airport station site

 by PassRailSavesFuel ¦  Sun Nov 14, 2010 7:15 pm ¦  Forum: Central Railroad Company of New Jersey ¦  Topic: CNJ Newark Airport station site ¦  Replies: 4 ¦  Views: 6993

The purpose of the station was likely for employees of the businesses in the area, including the airport, rather than airline passengers, I suspect. I recall seeing the station from a CNJ train as we passed. Just think of the market for this service! For air passengers. I realized this as a teenage...

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