• Virginia & Maryland Railway, of the late '70s

  • Discussion pertaining to all railroading subjects, past and present, in Delaware, Maryland, Virginia and Washington, D.C.
Discussion pertaining to all railroading subjects, past and present, in Delaware, Maryland, Virginia and Washington, D.C.

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  by Teutobergerwald
 
Anybody have any info on the trackage and customer base of the short-lived Virginia & Maryland Railway back in the late '70s? I believe their locomotive roster was comprised of former LIRR Alco C420s, which had been returned coming off-lease to their lessor in late '76 and early '77. Thanks.
  by CrustyTrainGuy6
 
I believe that the Virginia & Maryland Railway inherited some trackage in Little Creek, Virginia, near Norfolk, when they bought the line from Conrail in the '70s. Little Creek was the end point for the car ferry route originating in Cape Charles that stayed in business into the 2000s. I've seen photos of one of the V&M's Alco C420s hauling scrap filled gondolas so maybe there was a metal processing plant nearby? I know that there was a cement plant in Cape Charles that may have been one of the last main customers of the Bay Coast Railway before it shut down in 2018. As an interesting fact, I believe that former Virginia & Maryland Railway Alco C420 High Hood #200 survives on the Livonia Avon & Lakeville Railroad as their #420.

All The Best,

Nick Jobe
Centreville, VA
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  by Teutobergerwald
 
I read somewhere else on this website that one of the V&M's Alco C420s, #210, was deep-sixed whilst switching the floatbridge, but I don't recall on which side, Cape Charles or Little Creek, and was later scrapped. I believe #213 survives to this day, on the Dakota Southern.
  by CrustyTrainGuy6
 
You're right about one of the locos sinking and subsequently being scrapped, although, I believe it was #203, originally Long Island Railroad #210 instead. It fell off a barge and was scrapped soon after it was recovered. The recovery effort would have definitely been something I would've payed to see! Little Billie's out on his boat and he sees a crane "fishing". Suddenly out of the depths pops a locomotive! On another note, it appears Dakota Southern #213 is down with a prime mover issue, but I don't believe it's going anywhere. Livonia Avon & Lakeville #420 on the other hand appears to be operable and in good condition.

All The Best,

Nick Jobe
Centreville, VA
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  by Teutobergerwald
 
The 200's original 1963 as-delivered gray & orange livery is peeking through the post-1968 blue & yellow. She is doing quite well in upstate NY, wearing beautiful black & gold LA&L livery, and exquisitely maintained.
  by Teutobergerwald
 
Did the V&M have any rolling stock of it's own, such as boxcars, like so many other shortlines did from the mid-70s on???
  by Kuyahoora Valley
 
When I was in the Navy in 1990 I went over to Cape Charles and saw the 203 sitting in the yard, highly corroded. I have some pix someplace.

Also V&M 202 survives, originally LIRR 221....went to NYS&W around 1982 and operated out of Utica with C-420 2000. She was numbered 2002 IAW NYS&W practice of even numbers if locomotive had MU. Then it was renumbered to 260 for a few years for some unknown reason and then was renumbered to 2010 in the late 80s. Ended up at Buffalo Southern where it exists today, OOS, still 2010.