by Noel Weaver
drewh wrote:Here's an interesting thought, and yes probably too far fetched for the politics between NYC/NJ/LI. But look what other cities have been able to do in combining their varied commuter services.I have no idea where you propose the money come from for this dream.
What if LIRR East Side Access was not built into GCT, but instead several stations were built as part of a Second Ave subway?? The initial segment would obviously start at the 63rd St tunnel. There could be a station at 55th St, 42nd St, 34th St, and 14th St.
Phase II - bring the line downtown. Instead of building a new East River tunnel for JFK and LIRR access, just continue the line into downtown along the proposed route of the 2nd Ave subway.
Phase III - NJT's access to the regions core. Build the new Hudson tunnels to downtown to connect with this new subway. Follow the old PRR ROW into Jersey City, start the tunnel just after Journal Square. There could be a downtown Jersey City station, a WTC station, and Canal St, before heading uptown to 14, 34, 42, and 55.
Phase IV - extend the local service of the subway further uptown.
We could have both NJT and LIRR thru trains with multiple station stops along the east side, direct EWR and JFK train service from all the stations and downtown as well. This gives the possibility of many more people getting a once seat ride - grant you for midtown people it is on the east side though. 2 tracks for NJT, 2 for LIRR. NJT could serve any additional uptown stations.
LIRR could have a yard near EWR airport. No need to extend PATH to EWR. If NJT continued to Jamaica, where would there be space for a yard for them??
We basically replace 5 projects with 1. Thoughts??
I would think you people are looking at about a 40 per cent income tax.
The average joe would be satisfied with clean, dependable and decent
service to the existing terminals. There are other alternatives available
to get around NYC.
Folks, this has been discussed, discussed and discussed here. Metro-North
is NOT going to go to Penn Station. There is no track space there for them
and there will not be within the existing 21 track station.
There is no extra capacity under either river either, forget it.