by the sarge
Suburban Station wrote:What an obnoxious and verbose reply that at no point disproved my post. The train is not faster it is in fact, slightly slower...the opposite of the pr claim that travel time was cut.I'm not trying to "disprove" your post. I totally agree the schedule was extended by one horrifying minute between Paoli and Phily. When someone states it's "just pr", that implies the news is a false impression of goodwill. That is the issue, but requires no extra "proof". Its a news release not a theory. The news release stated
the sarge wrote:Travel time to New York City is reduced
Isn't that what's going to happen as claimed when the new 600 replaces the current 600/172 option? Travel time to NYC will be reduced? I didn't see anything about running the train "faster", just reduced travel time between two endpoints. I also cannot find in the news release that claimed travel time will be reduced between the "largest inbound trip generator" and Philly.
Although, one could interpret from the actual verbiage of the news release that for those who use the current 600/172 travel option between the "largest inbound trip generator" and NYC, the trip time will be, (drumroll) reduced with the new 600. Again, exactly what the news release stated in regards to 600. I will concede that this interpretation is only true if there are passengers who travel between the "largest inbound trip generator" and NYC. Then again, I'm confused why you even brought up "the largest inbound trip generator" in the first place.
The only point that I said you were completely wrong on was claiming the new 600 trip was extended by one minute to "..accommodate all local stops". No stops were added between the old 600 and the new 600 and the extra slow-as-a-mule minute has nothing to do with the station stops for the new service.
And yes, I consider pointing out that a 1 hour and 49 minute segment being lengthened by one whole minute as "obnoxious" and trivial in the true scope of the service; especially when the net time for the new 600 is considerably less then the current 600/172 travel option between HAR and NYP.
Aside from beating a dead horse over the the "Extra One MinuteGate" folly:
To update one of my posts that said:
the sarge wrote:it's still possible that there is train number confusion.This became true in one respect, but errors in contrast to the claims were a bit more (That is unless the schedule is corrected and posted before the Oct 5th service commences) Risking going back down the verbose road:
the sarge wrote:A new eastbound train, 644, will depart Harrisburg at 6 AM This change allows the train to continue to New York City and eliminates the need for passengers to change trains in Philadelphia to continue to New York City. The change cuts the travel time to New York City by 13 minutes.The 6:00 AM train is not 644 but 642. This error can be forgiven
the sarge wrote:Westbound trains 641 and 643 departing Philadelphia at 9 AM and 11 AM, respectively, will also stop at Coatesville and Mount Joy. Two minutes will be added to the Harrisburg arrival time.This claim appears to be false as the schedule for Oct 5 does not reflect these stops to the 'Ville and the Joyous Mountain. I cannot imagine the fallout from passengers waiting on the platform of these two stations with the news release in hand watching the trains fly past them. that's horrible PR. I was too lazy to go back and compare the schedules to see if two minutes were still added to the schedule without the stops. If not, that would be two lies in one claim- almost bad enough to warrant a congressional inquiry.
the sarge wrote:Westbound train 609, which currently originates in Philadelphia at 10:00 AM, will now originate in New York City and depart at 12:55 PM, Philadelphia at 2:45 PM, and arrive in Harrisburg at 4:30 PM.This false claim is very serious as the train according to the schedules is to arrive in HAR at 4:35 PM, a whole scandalous five minutes later then claimed - pr blasphemy .
Ironically, one of the only claims they got right in the news release was (drumroll please)..... Travel time for Train 600 from Harrisburg to NYC will be reduced compared to the current 600/172 service.