Viewliner II Delivery/Production

Tadman wrote: That's a great example of the P-S stainless over carbon. . Why bother with the stainless, why not just go carbon?

Eventually Pullman figured out and built all stainless cars: R46s and Superliners, and St. Louis did so with Silverliner III and Arrow I (Comaro). I'm guessing the license from Budd was worked out by then.

Pullman made some cars in the late 50s that were all stainless. There are a few PVs running around that are of this construction.

R36 Combine Coach wrote:

Tadman wrote: That's a great example of the P-S stainless over carbon. . Why bother with the stainless, why not just go carbon?

Eventually Pullman figured out and built all stainless cars: R46s and Superliners, and St. Louis did so with Silverliner III and Arrow I (Comaro). I'm guessing the license from Budd was worked out by then.

Oddly enough Budd allowed P-S to use their shot-weld process for free, not that it did them any good in the long run. The first car is still around. As already mentioned P-S used the process for the Superliners and much later the shells for the first Viewliners were built at the former Pullman shops in Chicago for M-K (just to bring this thread full circle).

Back to V-II's, please.

How 'bout a couple more links to new diners? (not mine)

AMTK 68004 Baton Rouge
AMTK 68005 Boston

That's more like it! Thanks!

It is amazing to think that it has taken 45+ years for Amtrak to replace all of their Heritage equipment.

Don't forget the Metroliners, still kicken.

Nick

Don't forget the Metroliners, still kicken.

Yes, but their numbers are fewer and fewer. And they are over 45 years of age...

gokeefe wrote:It is amazing to think that it has taken 45+ years for Amtrak to replace all of their Heritage equipment.

To my way of thinking, it's a testament to the quality of the Edward G Budd Manufacturing Company!

Anyone care to bet how long the V-II fleet will last?

I hope I'm still around to see them turned either into razor blades or museum showpieces by 2060. Also hoping the V-Is will have been retired by 2040!!

Get three more cars on the property, and the Lake Shore could have full-service dining restored. There would be one protect car that presumably would live at SSY. There could be two if needed from a 98-49 switchout at same and/or v.v.

We need five more cars for diners on the LSL. The Crescent currently needs four as does SM. There are currently 3 VIIs and the VI in service, plus two more VIIs in preacceptance inspections. That would give us six, now in actuality something kind of interesting is about to happen, in that the Crescent should go from four transits to three, over the summer while its curtailed to DC. That means that with the next two diners arriving on property, should come the ability to cover all departures and have a spare. Hopefully by the time the Crescent makes its Triumphant return to NYC, there will be enough diners for the LSL as well.
Cheers,
Nick

John_Perkowski wrote: Anyone care to bet how long the V-II fleet will last?

I hope if I'm reincarnated within the next century or two, I might get to ride on them in excursion service at least, maybe on a historic dinner train somewhere!

the Crescent should go from four transits to three, over the summer while its curtailed to DC.

Whuchu talkin' 'bout, Willis?

I just checked the Amtrak website and there is no service alert posted as of yet concerning the Crescent. Can you be more specific?

Champlain Division wrote:

the Crescent should go from four transits to three, over the summer while its curtailed to DC.

Whuchu talkin' 'bout, Willis?

I just checked the Amtrak website and there is no service alert posted as of yet concerning the Crescent. Can you be more specific?

During the work at Penn Station New York, the Crescent will terminate in Washington and there will be a modified schedule for train 19 southbound; This will permit the train to operate with only three sets of equipment instead of the normally required four.