by Cactus Jack
With repect to the previous post on the time frame for repainting the 1270-1284 series.
The 1274 was certainly one of the first, as photos show it in G/Y/M as early as Summer 1966.
1279 was painted after the Killawog wreck CA 1968? into the G/Y/M
Other units show up in this scheme until about 1970 - 71 the 1280 and maybe 1281 were left in the old scheme. I personally don't recall any blck / black yellow units after OCt. 1969, but photos do show the 1280 / 81? as late as Summer, 1970.
I have photos of most of this class in G/Y/M by late 1968 / early 1969.
The D&H 5000's became frequent in Dereco days and sometimes that is all you would see on the Utica side for weeks. 5005, 5017 and 5019 were very common. They even had different horns than the 1200's, as I recall they were Hancock horns, or something similar.
The first G/Y/M Geep I ever saw was in May 1965 on the Utica side, the ex-Erie 1243. By September, 1965 the ex-ERIE locos 1200-1245 left and the 1270-1284 returned, with an occasional and rare appearance of ex-ERIE GP-9's 1260 series.
Problem is, I don't know where the 1270-1284 disappeared to in the later 1963 - September, 1965 period or when they got the new paint. Seems to me that one of the ex ERIE units 1230 series was the very last in the old colors CA Fall 1971. We never got the Erie units back until the Scranton Bull went on operating between Utica and Scranton CA 1973. They had the 1200-1245 series units many nights along with an occaisional Uboat or GP35 all the way into Utica. The ERIE 930 series Alcos were in Utica VERY briefly CA 1972, but did not last very long. 931 and 933 were photographed in Utica, as well as an occasional D&H 4100 series RS-3, but the 5000's were most common.
Chief Troll is correct on the Torpedo Tube Geeps, in that it was the added tank capacity to handle the WATER for the steam generators that forced the air reservoirs on top. The later SD45-2's had internal air reservoirs to accomodate the larger 5000 gallon FUEL tanks
Thanks for all the comments
The 1274 was certainly one of the first, as photos show it in G/Y/M as early as Summer 1966.
1279 was painted after the Killawog wreck CA 1968? into the G/Y/M
Other units show up in this scheme until about 1970 - 71 the 1280 and maybe 1281 were left in the old scheme. I personally don't recall any blck / black yellow units after OCt. 1969, but photos do show the 1280 / 81? as late as Summer, 1970.
I have photos of most of this class in G/Y/M by late 1968 / early 1969.
The D&H 5000's became frequent in Dereco days and sometimes that is all you would see on the Utica side for weeks. 5005, 5017 and 5019 were very common. They even had different horns than the 1200's, as I recall they were Hancock horns, or something similar.
The first G/Y/M Geep I ever saw was in May 1965 on the Utica side, the ex-Erie 1243. By September, 1965 the ex-ERIE locos 1200-1245 left and the 1270-1284 returned, with an occasional and rare appearance of ex-ERIE GP-9's 1260 series.
Problem is, I don't know where the 1270-1284 disappeared to in the later 1963 - September, 1965 period or when they got the new paint. Seems to me that one of the ex ERIE units 1230 series was the very last in the old colors CA Fall 1971. We never got the Erie units back until the Scranton Bull went on operating between Utica and Scranton CA 1973. They had the 1200-1245 series units many nights along with an occaisional Uboat or GP35 all the way into Utica. The ERIE 930 series Alcos were in Utica VERY briefly CA 1972, but did not last very long. 931 and 933 were photographed in Utica, as well as an occasional D&H 4100 series RS-3, but the 5000's were most common.
Chief Troll is correct on the Torpedo Tube Geeps, in that it was the added tank capacity to handle the WATER for the steam generators that forced the air reservoirs on top. The later SD45-2's had internal air reservoirs to accomodate the larger 5000 gallon FUEL tanks
Thanks for all the comments
