GP-7's

Here are some questions for the hard core !

What was the first former DL&W GP-7 (1270-1284 series) painted in the yellow / maroon / gray ? - when ?

What was the last one painted and when ?

Does anyone have a schedule of when each of these received the Y/M/G paint scheme ?

Were these units used on the west end for a while ? - again when ??

As far as I know, none of the DL&W GP7's ever recieved a maroon/grey/yellow scheme.
they were always in the plain green.

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/el/loco/dlw963ajh.jpg
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/el/loco/dlw1272ajh.jpg
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/el/loco/dlw1408as.jpg

If any were painted in the maroon/grey/yellow scheme, I would like to see it! but I always thought all the DL&W GP's were in the green only.

Steamtown painted a SD24 in that scheme once:
http://forums.railfan.net/Images/Lackaw ... Weibel.jpg
(that unit was never actually a DL&W unit..)

there is a modern railroad, the Algoma Central, in Canada, that adapted the Lackawanna/EL Cab unit scheme to road switchers!
I always thought that was pretty cool:

http://algomacentral.railfan.net/images ... Ry/152.jpg
http://algomacentral.railfan.net/images ... /182_1.jpg

Scot

oh! it just occured to me..
you meant when did they recieve the *Erie Lackawanna* scheme!
after the merger..
I didnt notice the use of the word "former".
I thought you were referring to the DL&W itself..pre-merger.

Scot

Green ??

yeah..werent they a dark green?
or were they black?
somehow I have always had it in my head they were green, not sure where I got that!
it is something I have believed for decades..but I could be wrong!
the DL&W is my "hometown road" that I know the least about..
color pics of those units seem to be exceedingly rare..

Scot

Black....with the yellow/gold lettering and numerils.

Confirmed by photoes in Trackside Sayre. The DL&W Geeps were just as black as Erie's- perhaps that was the reason for the early black/yellow paint job on EL freight units.

Some EL GP-7s had that upper side vent which made them look more like GP-9s. Which # GP-7s had these, why did they have them, and which road where they inherited from?

DL&W GP7's came in two flavors. The "Torpedo Boats" had their air resevoirs on top the hoods, thus the name. I think this was because of dynamic brakes on the units and/or they were passenger service equiped with steam boilers.

EL black freight units were black because Erie's freight units were black.

Yeah, I never say the Geeps or the RSs in anything other than black paint schemes.

Doesn't say there weren't others, but I never saw them. It would have been cool, though. Thanks for springing a creative image in someone who'se enduring a 100 degree day in Arizona.

The GP7/9s and RS-2/3s were all repainted maroon/gray/yellow by the time I began to notice EL- circa '73 or '74. Bill White had ordered them to be repainted around 1964.

I believe the air resevoirs were located on the roof because the units had oversized fuel tanks.

Only the five DL&W Geeps for passenger service had the air res on roof. Called them "Torpedo Boats". Bigger fuel tank and steam generator was the reason. I don't know if any other road did the same.

the group of geeps (1270-1284) were used primarily on the S+U between syracuse,utica,and scranton
repainting in the G/M/Y and possibly overhauls started in the spring of 1971.the first units i saw were 1270,1275,1276 and 1274. while work was being done on the geeps EL used D+H 5000 series alcos to fill in on the S+U.

charles

<<Only the five DL&W Geeps for passenger service had the air res on roof. Called them "Torpedo Boats". Bigger fuel tank and steam generator was the reason. I don't know if any other road did the same

>>It was actually a large water tank for the steam generator that displaced the air reservoirs to the roof. It was a fairly common configuration - the New York Central had a bunch of them. I mostly saw them on Lines West of Buffalo. Not all GP's with steam generators had the air reservoirs on the roof - it depended on the heating water and fuel capacity.

Gordon Davids