by Bracdude181
@CR7876 Maybe that’s for the best. Probably because there’s a lot of ways they can go about it. We might go crazy trying to find the most likely option!
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RailsEast wrote: ↑Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:48 pm ...I can't see Amtrak (or NJT) allowing any sand trains on the NEC except maybe late at night. And no new turnouts etc under any conditions, so that means no sand trains on the NEC to the bridge site ( though maybe using other tracks to some concrete facility.)
6- Projected unloading facility will be massive...as mentioned, sand doesn't turn into concrete overnight.
RailsEast wrote: ↑Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:48 pm 7 - Yes, went over the new Goethals bridge last week and the build was very impressive even without a sand train.As an aside, in the fall my wife and I parked in southern Bayonne, rode our bikes up (slowly!) and over the new Bayonne bridge to Staten Island (there is a very wide and barrier-protected pedestrian/bikeway), cut across Staten Island for a couple of miles (a bit tricky by bike but do-able) and then went up the new Goethels bridge (another good pedestrian/bikeway), and back. Great views on both of them. Saw remains of the old CNJ main, went past the Howland Hook RR transfer yard (trash, containers) on Staten Island, looked down on AK bridge, and lots of other industrial and marine infrastructure. HIghly recommended (by bike or by foot). The Bayonne bridge was very popular with local walkers, much less so on the Goethels bridge because it had no housing nearby.
In my honest opinion,
Chris
ccutler wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 12:35 pm Sounds like a bike ride I will take in the spring, thanks!
NY&LB wrote: ↑Tue Jan 12, 2021 3:51 pm I also would love to see more trains on the Southern Secondary.Just a correction, Victory Bridge is the Rt 35 Bridge over the Raritan. Route 9 Bridge was being rebuilt or improved in 1999-2002. Also the Garden State Parkway was widening in 2005-2009
BUT a significant amount of sand was needed for the Goethals Bridges (2013-2018), yea there are two now as well as for the replacement for the Victory bridge (2002-2005) (Rt 9 over the Raritan). I have no idea where that sand came from but it was NOT by rail up the Southern Secondary. WHY are we assuming that ANY of these future projects will be using Clayton sand transported by rail?