by markyk
Nestle is not storing any water in any intermediate storage locations for the time being...........if you want PS, you will get it straight from Maine via truck..........Swiss bean counters now involved........
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CN9634 wrote:pnolette wrote:Nestle's going thru some major changes right now.So anything is possible at this point.They are getting rid of their Nestle DSD trucking.Laying off 4700 people.The Nestle layoffs do not impact PS from what I understand, it's just for it's food brand products (pizza & ice cream) business. I was going to say I would be surprised if PS had 4700 drivers, as they contract out final mile logistics under a dedicated account to A Duie Pyle, who owns the chassis fleet and tractors for the door moves out of Ayer. On the Maine side, RC Moore has most if not all of the dray contract.
doublestack wrote:Note the 2nd half of this 104 car train has 59 mongrel unmarked containers on a PO/AY.This was the extra pig cars I was talking about, I know for a fact these were unloaded and added to 23k to go west as empty empties. Last I saw Eimskips are still in circulation.
PBMcGinnis wrote:But the fickle nature of these big retail shippers is another reason the railroads in general aren't going to make large investment in more intermodal containers and instead put the risk on the shipper or a third party logistics company.Pan Am is deeply invested in the future of bottled water by rail. It is a very significant partnership, potentially the most significant customer they have based on future development prospects.
gokeefe wrote:Pan Am is deeply invested in the future of bottled water by rail. It is a very significant partnership, potentially the most significant customer they have based on future development prospects.Perhaps the upgrade and expansion of the Port of St. John may be the most significant future development for Pan AM.
690 wrote:Sure, it's a good partnership, and it's worked out so far, but I'd hesitate to call it the most significant customer they have, by a long shot. Paper mills are still more important (and generate much more revenue), and they've got a few other things in the pipeline that could shake out to be good revenue generators as well. The water, despite the effort made to move it quickly, doesn't generate a lot of revenue.Spot on.
690 wrote:Sure, it's a good partnership, and it's worked out so far, but I'd hesitate to call it the most significant customer they have, by a long shot. Paper mills are still more important (and generate much more revenue), and they've got a few other things in the pipeline that could shake out to be good revenue generators as well. The water, despite the effort made to move it quickly, doesn't generate a lot of revenue.Let's just say that "potentially" is the key word. I completely acknowledge and agree that at current traffic levels it isn't on the same level with paper and propane. There is a view from certain places that PS could become the largest customer ...