CR on the Southern Secondary

RailsEast wrote:Sand will move from Woodmansie only there is a concrete agreement (no pun intended) to completely fund the Gateway Project. NY & NJ have allocated funds to pay for half of the 13 Billion dollar cost, and they are waiting on Washington to fund the other half. The state of NJ did ok the grant to rebuild Lakehurst-Woodmansie, so at least NJ is thinking positively about this.

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Everyone & their grandmother expects this to get done, the only question is when. The existing tunnels will fail, either incrementally or catastrophically, in the next 25 years. Major rehab on the existing tunnels (another need for sand) could then be instituted when the new tunnels are completed.

Sand, I believe, would travel from Woodmansie to North Bergen, where the Jersey-side portals would be constructed.
I had projected late 2019 for trains to start in a previous post, but for political reasons (2020 election year approaching), it may be sometime in 2020 (or '21).....

Again, this is just my opinion, and I have no inside information on the subject; a tie replacement program on the Southern and the rebuild of the 'Lakehurst connection' over the Manapaqua Creek (Rt.70) will reveal a better timetable.
Chris

The real questions I have is, when sand trains start rolling on the tracks for any ARC tunnel work, how many trains a week can we expect?

As for the other projects you mentioned, do you think the tie replacement and what not would come anytime soon? I could imagine that if they did that, combined with the ARC tunnel, there would be strong reasons to somehow bundle MOM line development into the mix

When it comes to sand trains on the southern, IMHO, everyone here ought to just take a break. AFAIK, all the track work south of lakewood that has been done so far, has been use of "use it or lose it" money. So of course they are going to use it. I dont think it is any indication of use of the track being immanent.

Permission to open Church Connecting Track 3:29pm

Lined and Locked 3:43pm

We can most likely see NS 5285 today, but not confirmed

6228, 4412, and about 16 cars today, as per a friend

Approaching Shrewsbury Ave 4:36 PM with 6228 and 4412 with 18 cars, 1 for Bel-Ray.

Anybody know why after Shrewsbury Ave. they blow their horn a couple of times really fast? I've noticed that a lot.

Here is the run from today:
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Enjoy!
Shot at Shrewsbury Ave fyi.

Stopped in Farmingdale at the crossing, 6:34 PM

Video shows a whole lot of rocking going on- starts to make me seasick...also looks like no FRED on the tail end.

snavely wrote:Video shows a whole lot of rocking going on- starts to make me seasick...also looks like no FRED on the tail end.

Yeah, the tracks are in really bad condition from Sycamore to Shrewsbury.

Jersey Rail FIlmmakers wrote:

snavely wrote:Video shows a whole lot of rocking going on- starts to make me seasick...also looks like no FRED on the tail end.

Yeah, the tracks are in really bad condition from Sycamore to Shrewsbury.

Not to mention the fact that Andy always liked to gun it through Sycamore . . . lol

My perspective of yesterday's run. Enjoy!

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snavely wrote:Video shows a whole lot of rocking going on- starts to make me seasick...also looks like no FRED on the tail end.

Definitely a FRED on the tank car, just not flashing.