• B&M Alco HH600 & HH660 - photos?

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Discussion relating to the pre-1983 B&M and MEC railroads. For current operations, please see the Pan Am Railways Forum.

Moderator: MEC407

  by bumthum
 
I know that B&M owned two of these locomotives but cannot find much info about them. Does anyone have any knowledge to share? It woudl be much appreciated.
  by BR4
 
B&M owned one HH660 and two HH600's. HH600 1101 & 1102, renumbered eventually to 1160 & 1161.
HH660 #1162. All since sold or scrapped.
  by bumthum
 
B&M owned one HH660 and two HH600's. HH600 1101 & 1102, renumbered eventually to 1160 & 1161.
HH660 #1162. All since sold or scrapped.
Hmmmm... Are there any photos of these things floating around? I can only find pics of the Atlas HO model on the internet. Are there any major external physical differences between the two models? Again, I couldnt find much info about them online, just the same stuff cut-and-pasted from one site to the next.
  by MEC407
 
I did some quick Googling and couldn't find any non-model photos either. I wonder if our Mr. Hutchinson has any. :-D
  by bmcdr
 
MEC407 wrote:I did some quick Googling and couldn't find any non-model photos either. I wonder if our Mr. Hutchinson has any. :-D
Mr.Hutchinson does indeed have photos. B&M owned two HH-600's and one HH-660, the 600's were numbered 1101 and 1102, 1101 was re-numbered 1161 and 1102 was re-numbered 1160. The 660 was numbered 1162. The 1101 was shot in Lowell in 1938 at what is now CPF-WA and the 1102 was taken in 1946 at Concord,N.H.
  by bmcdr
 
Here are two more photos, the 1161 at Billerica Shops in 1950 and the 1162 in back of the old East Cambridge roundhouse in 1950.
  by Eliphaz
 
1101 and 1102 are quite different looking.
was that flat front end and steam-engine style head light on 1102 as original, or a wreck repair perhaps?
  by MEC407
 
Thanks for the photos, Mr. Hutchinson! I knew you'd help us out. :-D
  by bumthum
 
1101 and 1102 are quite different looking.
was that flat front end and steam-engine style head light on 1102 as original, or a wreck repair perhaps?
IIRC the HH600 series was originally designed with the flat end, then ALCO had an industrial designer smooth out the rough edges and the more rounded hood and some other details were the end result.

Mr Hutchinson, thank you again for saving the day. I will be spending quite a lot of time reviewing these photos for details.
  by b&m 1566
 
Were they originally delivered in all black like the 1101 is in the picture?
  by bmcdr
 
Yes, all 3 were delivered in black with square herald.