• NJ oil trains-No M&E?

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Pertaining to all railroading subjects, past and present, in New Jersey

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  by northjerseybuff
 
Just curious if the M&E could get some of this new traffic since they operate the Bayway refinery. Seems like they may be able to do something here..
  by Jtgshu
 
northjerseybuff wrote:Just curious if the M&E could get some of this new traffic since they operate the Bayway refinery. Seems like they may be able to do something here..
Oh boy, this has the potential to get that NIMBY group in Summit all hot and bothered....and they were worried about garbage trains on the SIRT and RVRR....HAHAH

:)
  by blockline4180
 
northjerseybuff wrote:Just curious if the M&E could get some of this new traffic since they operate the Bayway refinery. Seems like they may be able to do something here..

Are you dreaming??? It will never happen unless some miracle occurs and pigs can fly!!

I don't even think the oil trains can go east through the Oranges and Newark due to the low close clearances for widecabs, and the step grade on the M&E. Also, I don't think the Center Street Branch can handle such a train either.
  by nick11a
 
Jtgshu wrote:
northjerseybuff wrote:Just curious if the M&E could get some of this new traffic since they operate the Bayway refinery. Seems like they may be able to do something here..
Oh boy, this has the potential to get that NIMBY group in Summit all hot and bothered....and they were worried about garbage trains on the SIRT and RVRR....HAHAH

:)
I keep hoping the RVRR between Summit and Cranford gets reavtivated one day; it is right by where I live. I keep dreaming too!
  by northjerseybuff
 
What happened to rebuilding the line from Summit to Cranford?
  by BigDell
 
That question would be more properly addressed to Mr. Fullers attorney
I know there is a back story there that I missed. Which is the appropriate forum to find out what happened with all that?
  by ccutler
 
Somerset Terminal...the bridgewater trash transfer appears to have switched 100% to trucks.
  by wolfboy8171981
 
Trainlawyer wrote:Returning, I hope to the original topic of this thread, the M&E provides a contract switching service at Bayway. Any crude oil traffic would come in via CR on the Chemical Coast and both CSX and NS are quite able to get there without involving New Jersey Transit, the Morris and Essex or the Center Street Branch. Whether or not it were to actually happen is a decision by the refinery which depends on a number of factors including the delivered price of the crude, the type of crude, the investment in the cars and unloading facilities, permitting, and a whole host of financial and contractual considerations which have absolutely nothing to do with the M&E.

GME
Lets not forget that Conoco Phillips is NOT a M&E customer but a Conrail customer. Lets also keep in mind that Conoco Phillips is building their oil unloading racks off a different Conrail line in Linden.