• Michael Portillo

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Discussion about railroad topics everywhere outside of Canada and the United States.

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  by johnthefireman
 
Portillo was very unpopular as a right wing politician, but surprisingly good at these railway videos. He's found his true niche in life!
  by george matthews
 
johnthefireman wrote:Portillo was very unpopular as a right wing politician, but surprisingly good at these railway videos. He's found his true niche in life!
I will be happy if he doesn't return to politics. I wish his rail programmes had more rail info in them and fewer encounters with farmers and tradesmen.
  by ExCon90
 
Many rail programs suffer from that. I suspect it's necessary to attract a large enough number of viewers to justify its production, just as in North America in order to finance a rail excursion it's usually necessary to include some attraction that will appeal to "civilians" sufficiently to induce enough of them to buy tickets. In the case of the Vienna-Trieste video I think the historical background is absolutely necessary to place the railway over the Semmering in context.
  by philipmartin
 
For me the country the rail line is going through is often more interesting than the railroad itself, especially on this worldwide forum.
  by David Benton
 
Yes , everything seems generalised these days. Perhaps they expect viewers to google any details they may wish to know.
  by ExCon90
 
Just finished Vienna-Trieste; some interesting shots of the tram/funicular from Villa Opicina to Trieste beginning about 50 minutes in.
  by george matthews
 
ExCon90 wrote:Many rail programs suffer from that. I suspect it's necessary to attract a large enough number of viewers to justify its production, just as in North America in order to finance a rail excursion it's usually necessary to include some attraction that will appeal to "civilians" sufficiently to induce enough of them to buy tickets. In the case of the Vienna-Trieste video I think the historical background is absolutely necessary to place the railway over the Semmering in context.
He is a strange person in some ways. His father was a Spanish exile - and leftwing politician - and Portillo himself speaks Spanish fluently. I think the oddest thing about him is that at university he attached himself to the Tory party, and then served as a Tory MP. He is also rumoured to be gay and has a wife who apparently lives separately.
  by philipmartin
 
george matthews wrote: He is a strange person in some ways. His father was a Spanish exile - and leftwing politician - and Portillo himself speaks Spanish fluently. I think the oddest thing about him is that at university he attached himself to the Tory party, and then served as a Tory MP.
There's nothing strange about that. Many normal people have Spanish fathers and speak Spanish fluently, and many are Tories.
  by george matthews
 
philipmartin wrote:
george matthews wrote: He is a strange person in some ways. His father was a Spanish exile - and leftwing politician - and Portillo himself speaks Spanish fluently. I think the oddest thing about him is that at university he attached himself to the Tory party, and then served as a Tory MP.
There's nothing strange about that. Many normal people have Spanish fathers and speak Spanish fluently, and many are Tories.
The refugees from Spain - from the Civil War period, and opponents of Franco - tend to be leftwing, as was his father. What is odd is that Michael Portillo, the son, is notoriously rightwing.
  by philipmartin
 
george matthews wrote: notoriously rightwing.
"Notorious" is a peculiar word to use here.
  by philipmartin
 
David Benton wrote: Perhaps they expect viewers to google any details they may wish to know.
Hmmm...I wonder whom you have in mind? :wink:
  by johnthefireman
 
From an online dictionary: Notorious = widely and unfavorably known; publicly or generally known, as for a particular trait; well-known for some bad or unfavourable quality, deed, etc; infamous.

I think it can be fairly said that Portillo fits these definitions. His private life has had some colourful incidents (all of which were seized upon by the great British media), and his political career included a failed leadership bid and the unexpected loss of his "safe" parliamentary seat.

I think George is entitled to say that his background is unusual. While there are, as Phillip says, many people who have Spanish fathers, there were not so many who were exiled Spanish republicans. And George notes the incongruity of a left-wing father and a fairly extreme right-wing son. It's not unheard of, of course, but it's worth a second glance.
  by philipmartin
 
johnthefireman wrote:And George notes the incongruity of a left-wing father and a fairly extreme right-wing son. It's not unheard of, of course, but it's worth a second glance.
It just means that the son became aware of a better way to go.
  by ExCon90
 
I tend to agree with George Matthews that the oddest thing about him is that he attached himself to the Tory party while at university; that doesn't seem to have happened to very many people.