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KFRG wrote:"Actually the interiors are more pleasant than the M1/3s."I don't think so. I think they just don't like the seats, but everything else is pretty good. The M1s are pretty bad running cars as of now. Their useful life is over. Besides keeping them another 10 years wouldn't make sense.
Yeah....tell that to the commuters riding home from their 9-5's. Do you work for Bombardier or something?
KFRG wrote:"I don't think so. I think they just don't like the seats, but everything else is pretty good. The M1s are pretty bad running cars as of now. Their useful life is over. Besides keeping them another 10 years wouldn't make sense."The number of commuters who talked about the M7s shortfalls are fairly small. Most commuters seem to fine with the M7s. They are fixing the swaying problem last I heard. The automated announcements, bright interiors, and large bathrooms are required ADA. Don't say all railfans hate the M7s, some (such as myself) like the M7s. Live with them. The M7s are staying!
And wrong again! Someone give this guy a medal. You seem to be the only one who likes cheesy bright and annoying interiors. What railfans think of these car's are meaningless, regular commuters have already spoken on the shortfalls of the M7's.
Long Island 7285 wrote:the M1 and M3 are no where near the end of there "usefull" life.Operationally, the M1s ARE at the end of their "useful life". They don't run well anymore, they are in bad shape. Unless they're overhauled, they CAN'T last 50 years. It's time for them to go.
Budd made them cars to last 50 years at least and possibly longer if they are taken care of.
Had the LIRR never droped the regular service and overhauls of the entire BUDD fleet then thoes cars could have all been around for another 10 maby 20 years.
and for you A-hole commuters who poke holes in the seats (Even on the M7's) you just made the price of your next ticket go up. its irelivent if your on a Budd, Bomb, Kawasiki. your tickit and my tickit just got more expensive. the same goes for u argent smart ass teens that think your crap don't stick.
its a proven fact, take care of your equipment and it last, some times longer then the builder expected.
It seems that many forgot about the ATO function that the M1s had and never used. and if the right skills are present the M1s can be fully retrofitted to last another 10-20 years.
Operationally, the M1s ARE at the end of their "useful life". They don't run well anymore, they are in bad shape. Unless they're overhauled, they CAN'T last 50 years. It's time for them to go.Im not argueing im stating a simple truth that the public and progissives are jsut simply blind to see.
Long Island 7285 wrote:Well, I don't know about their M1/3s, but the R32's in the NY Subway is to last another decade. In theory, the M1s can last 50 years IF you maintain them well. The way the M1s are presently they can't last another 5 years in service. What's wrong with LIRR's maintenance anyway?Operationally, the M1s ARE at the end of their "useful life". They don't run well anymore, they are in bad shape. Unless they're overhauled, they CAN'T last 50 years. It's time for them to go.Im not argueing im stating a simple truth that the public and progissives are jsut simply blind to see.
the BUDD fleet can and would last 50 years or more "IF" the LIRR KEPT DOING full over hauls every 5-10 years. and KEPT up on the maintenance of the MU's imbetween the overhauls like they did in the beginning.
the M1s and M3s could have very well have staid on LI for atleast another 10 maby 20 years if this work was done and done properly.
and you love your M7s so much, i hope you go tell the LIRR to take care of them before they become artifical reifs in the Atlantic and you can scuba dive on them. because at the way things look in 20 years 7001/2 will be on flats to a scrapper if the LIRR keeps up this wait till it falls apart bull stuff.
I feel bad for the trian men, and maintenance men (woman also) who catch holey hell for this neglegence brought upon them from there supers.
Guys get your signatures from the bosses and then some and SAVE every paper stating that they gave you wrong instructions (MAKE YOUR OWN COPY) so in the god for bid time that something happens because of supers decission you all are covered and have paper in writing to prove it.
Well, I don't know about their M1/3s, but the R32's in the NY Subway is to last another decade. In theory, the M1s can last 50 years IF you maintain them well. The way the M1s are presently they can't last another 5 years in service. What's wrong with LIRR's maintenance anyway?
Long Island 7285 wrote:You're right. But the M1s are still IMHO not my favorite cars even if they were maintained. They SHOULD have been overhauled, but since the railroad's ordering more M7s, it seems highly unlikely.Well, I don't know about their M1/3s, but the R32's in the NY Subway is to last another decade. In theory, the M1s can last 50 years IF you maintain them well. The way the M1s are presently they can't last another 5 years in service. What's wrong with LIRR's maintenance anyway?
I cant answer whats wrong with LIRR maintenance, other then they are part of the MTA whom allocated millions to NYCT and not enough to LIRR.
I cant mention any thing about the skills of the men and woman that do the work as A)i dont know them B)im not employee and i dont know exatly what is the deal C) I dont want to catch hell from fellow employees on the bord. so as for what goes on in the shop im "C-ing my way out of an "A/B" conversation.
and as i have stated in all my previous posts. the BUDD flet is more then capable to last 50 and maby even 60 years IF THEY "WERE" TAKEN CARE OF ON A YEARLY OR TRI YEARLY BASEIS.
so did we get an agreement yet
