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  by 25Hz
 
train2 wrote:You know that video doesn't look so bad, I was envisioning a fully flooded tube. That should not take an indefinite amount of time to fix.

T2
The video is form very early on. There's i'd guess about 8-10 feet of water in the one tunnel based on photos i've seen texted to me.
  by Jeff Smith
 
Not sure if this has been posted: http://www.amtrak.com/servlet/ContentSe ... 1622943055

^Modified Northeast Regional service between Boston and New Haven, Conn.; and between Newark, N.J., and points south; more overnight train service restoration; New York City service planning underway for Friday, Nov. 2

October 31, 2012
4:15 p.m. ET

Amtrak will provide modified Northeast Regional service between Boston and New Haven, Conn., and between Newark, N.J., and points south, on Thursday, November 1. Amtrak will also operate Shuttle service trains between Springfield, Mass., and New Haven, Keystone Service trains between Harrisburg, Penn., and Philadelphia, and Downeaster service trains between Boston and Portland, Maine, along with additional overnight services to and from the Northeast.

Amtrak is continuing to remove water from tunnels in order to make repairs to track, signal and power systems under the Hudson and East rivers and to restore service to and from Penn Station in New York City. Amtrak is planning to operate modified service to and from New York City on Friday, November 2, with schedules to be announced on Thursday, November 1.

In the meantime, there will be no Northeast Regional service between Newark and New Haven and no Acela Express service for the length of the Northeast Corridor on Thursday, November 1.

Other service plans, full and partial service, for Thursday, November1:


Crescent (Trains 19 & 20) will operate only between Washington D.C. and New Orleans Capitol Limited (Train 30), will operate normally Chicago-Washington, D.C. Pennsylvanian (Trains 42 & 43), will operate only between Pittsburgh and Philadelphia Cardinal (Train 50) will operate only between Chicago and Indianapolis Auto Train (Trains 52 & 53), will operate normally Lorton, Va.-Sanford, Fla. Maple Leaf (Trains 63 & 64) will operate only between Toronto, Ontario, Canada, and Albany-Rensselaer Carolinian (Trains 79 & 80) will operate only between Philadelphia and Charlotte Silver Star (Trains 91 & 92) will only operate between Miami and Jacksonville, Fla. Silver Meteor (Trains 97 & 98) will operate between Washington D.C. and Miami Lake Shore Limited (Trains 448 & 449) will operate normally between Chicago and Boston, with no (Trains 48 & 49) service to points south of Albany-Rensselaer Canceled on Thursday, November 1, is the Empire Service between New York City and Buffalo/Niagara Falls, the Adirondack (Trains 68 & 69) to and from Montreal, Québec, Canada, and the Ethan Allen Express (Trains 290 & 291) to and from Rutland, Vt., due to track damage south of Albany-Rensselaer, N.Y.

The following services are also canceled for Thursday, November 1:


Capitol Limited (Train 29), Washington-Chicago Vermonter (Trains 55 & 56), St. Albans, Vt.-Washington, D.C. Palmetto (Trains 89 & 90), New York-Savannah, including connecting Amtrak Thruway Bus Service Customers are encouraged to monitor Amtrak.com/alerts and those Northeast Corridor passengers on Acela Express, Northeast Regional or Keystone Service trains can follow @AmtrakNEC on Twitter to be notified when updates are posted on Amtrak.com. Amtrak will also be providing updates on its Facebook.com/Amtrak and Twitter.com/Amtrak pages.

Amtrak will update this statement by Thursday evening, November 1.
  by lirr42
 
Amtrak posted a release regarding the drainage of one of the NRT's Thursday:
An Amtrak Service Advisory, posted on [url=http://www.amtrak.com]Amtrak.com[/url] wrote:AMTRAK CLEARS WATER FROM ONE OF THE HUDSON RIVER TUNNELS
Repairs continue, test train to operate later today; New York City service restoration pending.


November 1, 2012
1:30 p.m. ET


Amtrak engineering and transportation forces are working together to restore service to and from New York City from points south and north on the Northeast Corridor.

Water has been pumped from one of the two Amtrak tunnels under the Hudson River and repairs continue in order to operate modified service. Among the procedures being followed is the operation of a test train -- without public passengers -- between New York City and Newark, N.J.

Amtrak will make an announcement later today regarding service restoration at New York City. When service resumes, it will subject to delay while repairs continue.

Reservations and ticketing for the modified service is not yet available. Passengers for the service will be asked to make reservations and/or use the eTicketing option with their computers and smartphones before traveling to Penn Station New York, 30th Street Station in Philadelphia or other Amtrak locations.

Customers are encouraged to monitor Amtrak.com/alerts and those Northeast Corridor passengers on Acela Express, Northeast Regional or Keystone Service trains can follow @AmtrakNEC on Twitter to be notified when updates are posted on Amtrak.com. Amtrak will also be providing updates on its Facebook.com/Amtrak and Twitter.com/Amtrak pages.

Passengers who have paid but choose not to travel due to this service disruption can receive a refund or a voucher for future travel. Some tickets booked online that have not yet been printed can be modified or canceled on Amtrak.com or by using the free Amtrak mobile app.

To be notified of major service disruptions resulting in delays of 60 minutes or more to multiple trains on the Northeast Corridor, follow @AmtrakNEC on Twitter.

Amtrak regrets any inconvenience. This information is correct as of the above time and date. Information is subject to change as conditions warrant. Passengers are encouraged to call 800-USA-RAIL or visit Amtrak.com/alerts for Service Alerts and Passenger Notices. Schedule information and train status updates are available at the Amtrak.com home page.
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Amtrak posted a release regarding the restoration of Service to New York Thursday:
An Amtrak Service Advisory, posted on [url=http://www.amtrak.com]Amtrak.com[/url] wrote:AMTRAK NEW YORK CITY SERVICE RESTORATION UNDERWAY
Modified New York service now available to points south, New York-Boston and other announcements pending.


November 1, 2012
4:00 p.m. ET


Amtrak is now taking reservations for modified service starting this evening between New York City and points south, including Trenton and Philadelphia.

Before traveling to Penn Station New York, 30th Street Station in Philadelphia or other Amtrak locations, passengers should make reservations and/or use the eTicketing option with their computers and smartphones.

Amtrak services to and from New York City are subject to delay while repairs continue.

Later, Amtrak will also announce plans to provide the first modified Northeast Regional service between New York City and Boston, modified Acela Express service and plans to restore other services that have been suspended due to Hurricane Sandy.

Repairs by other track owners also continue for the route between New York City and Albany-Rensselaer, with no estimate available for a restoration date for Empire Service trains between New York City and Buffalo/Niagara Falls, the Adirondack (Trains 68 & 69) to and from Montreal, Québec, Canada, and the Ethan Allen Express (Trains 290 & 291) to and from Rutland, Vt.

Customers are encouraged to monitor Amtrak.com/alerts and those Northeast Corridor passengers on Acela Express, Northeast Regional or Keystone Service trains can follow @AmtrakNEC on Twitter to be notified when updates are posted on Amtrak.com. Amtrak will also be providing updates on its Facebook.com/Amtrak and Twitter.com/Amtrak pages.

Passengers who have paid but choose not to travel due to this service disruption can receive a refund or a voucher for future travel. Some tickets booked online that have not yet been printed can be modified or canceled on Amtrak.com or by using the free Amtrak mobile app.

To be notified of major service disruptions resulting in delays of 60 minutes or more to multiple trains on the Northeast Corridor, follow @AmtrakNEC on Twitter.

Amtrak regrets any inconvenience. This information is correct as of the above time and date. Information is subject to change as conditions warrant. Passengers are encouraged to call 800-USA-RAIL or visit Amtrak.com/alerts for Service Alerts and Passenger Notices. Schedule information and train status updates are available at the Amtrak.com home page.
  by n2cbo
 
Backshophoss wrote:That would depend on how much water Amtrak has to pump out of the North River Tubes,
and repairs to the signal system.
I haven't worked for them since the 70s but back then you could have used manual block. Granted it would be VERY LIMITED service, but SOME service is always better than NONE...
Last edited by n2cbo on Thu Nov 01, 2012 7:26 pm, edited 1 time in total.
  by lirr42
 
n2cbo wrote:Granted it would be VERY LIMITED service, but SOME service is always better than NONE...
Not nescescarily, sometimes none is better than some. Some trains can lead to overcrowding and unsafe conditions on those. It can also lead to confusion of the simple-minded as to what trains were running. Until we can get half-decent safe service to an area, it should remain suspended for the time.
  by n2cbo
 
lirr42 wrote:
n2cbo wrote:Granted it would be VERY LIMITED service, but SOME service is always better than NONE...
Not nescescarily, sometimes none is better than some. Some trains can lead to overcrowding and unsafe conditions on those. It can also lead to confusion of the simple-minded as to what trains were running. Until we can get half-decent safe service to an area, it should remain suspended for the time.
Good Point
  by ThirdRail7
 
Limited train service resumed NYP-NWK. 187 first out, 80 in. 1177 followed out.
  by David Benton
 
Must say that is a pretty impressive effort considering the scale of the flooding .
  by ThirdRail7
 
David Benton wrote:Must say that is a pretty impressive effort considering the scale of the flooding .

Looks like there will be limited BOS-NHV service 11/2.
  by Albany Rider
 
While lack Empire Corridor service south of Albany to NYC is understandable, the continued failure to run Albany to Buffalo/Niagara Falls is puzzling. There was NO damage West of Albany. Engines, cars and crews were & are available. People who wanted to use that portion of the Empire Corridor West of Albany (some of whom made reservations weeks ago) were just told to get lost. Amtrak needs to learn that there is more to New York State than New York City.

Tony
  by millerm277
 
BOS-DC service reopened (including NYP) according to their website. E-Booking indicates >25 trains running tomorrow.

I am impressed.
  by JackRussell
 
millerm277 wrote:I am impressed.
No kidding. I was expecting a lot worse.
  by Greg Moore
 
Albany Rider wrote:While lack Empire Corridor service south of Albany to NYC is understandable, the continued failure to run Albany to Buffalo/Niagara Falls is puzzling. There was NO damage West of Albany. Engines, cars and crews were & are available. People who wanted to use that portion of the Empire Corridor West of Albany (some of whom made reservations weeks ago) were just told to get lost. Amtrak needs to learn that there is more to New York State than New York City.

Tony
Note there is some limited service west of Albany today. Maple Leaf and LSL are running.

Looks like they've "sold out" (which probably means cancelled" Empire Service trains for tomorrow and Sunday, but there are trains scheduled with open seats for Monday.

We'll see if tonight changes anything.
  by 25Hz
 
Albany Rider wrote:While lack Empire Corridor service south of Albany to NYC is understandable, the continued failure to run Albany to Buffalo/Niagara Falls is puzzling. There was NO damage West of Albany. Engines, cars and crews were & are available. People who wanted to use that portion of the Empire Corridor West of Albany (some of whom made reservations weeks ago) were just told to get lost. Amtrak needs to learn that there is more to New York State than New York City.

Tony
They likely did not have the power or crews (or both) in place to make those runs reliably. Also, they didn't tell anyone to "get lost". Any reservations that amtrak can't honor are available for a full refund or you can get a voucher useable for future travel.

I believe the crew base for all those trains is NYP, which till a few hours ago was not in service. Empire tunnel still not in service.
  by Jeff Smith
 
http://www.amtrak.com/servlet/ContentSe ... 1622951060

^AMTRAK NORTHEAST CORRIDOR SERVICE RESTORATION PLAN FOR NOVEMBER 2
Acela Express and Northeast Regional modified service Boston-New York City-Washington, D.C.; other services also restored following Hurricane Sandy

November 1, 2012
6:30 p.m. ET

Amtrak will provide Acela Express and Northeast Regional modified service on the Northeast Corridor between Boston and Washington, D.C., via New York City, on Friday, November 2. Before traveling to Boston-South Station, New York-Penn Station, Philadelphia-30th Street Station, or other Amtrak locations, passengers should make reservations and/or use the eTicketing option with their computers and smartphones.


Amtrak services to and from New York City are subject to delay while repairs continue.


Other plans, full and modified service, for Friday, November 2:

Keystone Service trains to and from Harrisburg, Penn., will primarily originate and terminate in Philadelphia, rather than New York
Crescent (Trains 19 & 20) will operate only between Washington D.C. and New Orleans, rather than originating and terminating in New York
Pennsylvanian (Trains 42 & 43), will operate normally Pittsburgh-New York
Cardinal (Train 51) will operate only between Indianapolis and Chicago, rather than originating and terminating in New York
Vermonter (Train 55) will originate in Springfield, Mass., rather than St. Albans, Vt., while Vermonter (Train 56) will operate normally from Washington, D.C., and terminate in St. Albans
Maple Leaf (Trains 63 & 64) will operate only between Toronto, Ontario, Canada, and Albany-Rensselaer, rather than originating and terminating in New York
Carolinian (Trains 79 & 80) will operate normally New York-Charlotte
Palmetto (Trains 89 & 90) will operate normally New York-Savannah, including connecting Amtrak Thruway Bus Service
Silver Star (Train 91) will originate in Jacksonville, rather than New York and (Train 92) will operate normally between Miami and New York
Silver Meteor (Trains 97 & 98) will operate normally New York-Miami
Lake Shore Limited (Trains 448 & 449) will operate normally Chicago-Boston, with no service to points south of Albany-Rensselaer, rather than (Trains 48 & 49) originating and terminating in New York
Repairs by other track owners also continue for the route between New York City and Albany-Rensselaer, with no estimate available for a restoration date for Empire Service trains between New York City and Buffalo/Niagara Falls, the Adirondack (Trains 68 & 69) to and from Montreal, Québec, Canada, and the Ethan Allen Express (Trains 290 & 291) to and from Rutland, Vt.


Customers are encouraged to monitor Amtrak.com/alerts and those Northeast Corridor passengers on Acela Express, Northeast Regional or Keystone Service trains can follow @AmtrakNEC on Twitter to be notified when updates are posted on Amtrak.com. Amtrak will also be providing updates on its Facebook.com/Amtrak and Twitter.com/Amtrak pages.


Amtrak will update this statement by Friday evening, November 2.


Passengers who have paid but choose not to travel due to this service disruption can receive a refund or a voucher for future travel. Some tickets booked online that have not yet been printed can be modified or canceled on Amtrak.com or by using the free Amtrak mobile app.

To be notified of major service disruptions resulting in delays of 60 minutes or more to multiple trains on the Northeast Corridor, follow @AmtrakNEC on Twitter.

Amtrak regrets any inconvenience. This information is correct as of the above time and date. Information is subject to change as conditions warrant. Passengers are encouraged to call 800-USA-RAIL or visit Amtrak.com/alerts for Service Alerts and Passenger Notices. Schedule information and train status updates are available at the Amtrak.com home page.
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