HO scale LIRR FA's from Walthers due in October!

just in. . .
http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/931-238


P2K makin geeps. . walthers with these. . .athearn with NYA. . .

ITS ABOUT TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!

I wonder if anyone will ever produce the deasil fleet passenger cars, so that we can put them with the FA units being released. I wonder if there is a possible run of a GP38-2. I think they would be able to make good money if they produced some LIRR stuff. the DMs and DEs would not sell much, because the LIRR is the only RR to use them....so hence not many people would buy them...but if they made a GP38 they could paint it up in different road names as well. Wishful thinking, I know lol

Also, any word on the MP15 locomotives that are coming out in HO scale? Thanks!

the LIRR gp38-2s are comming out in a few months

I copied this from a defunct website, but kept it on file. As of about 2001 or so, this was the list of LIRR F units, and their locations at that time.

Copied from File 5/6/2004 Long Island Rail Road
Alco F - HEP Cab units

600 Survives - FA2 - New York Central 1102 / Penn Central 1302
Date Built: October 1951
Builder Number: 79301
Retired by Long Island Rail Road in 1985
with prime mover intact
Only surviving New York Central Alco FA
Owned by Western New York Railway Historical Society.

601 Survives - FA2 - Louisville & Nashville 317
Date Built: June 1956
Builder Number: 81964
Traded in to General Electric by L&N
Retired by Long Island Rail Road with prime mover intact
Owned by Engines Preservation, Inc.- Stored in New Jersey.

602 Survives - FA2 - Louisville & Nashville 309
Built in May 1956
Builder Number 80903
Traded in to General Electric by L&N
Retired by Long Island Rail Road with 244 prime mover intact
Owned by Engines Preservation, Inc. -
Stored in New Jersey -
To be restored to operating condition using parts from a VIA
Alco B unit.

603 Survives - FA2 - Louisville & Nashville 315
Built in June 1956
Builder Number 81087
Traded in to General Electric by L&N
Retired by Long Island Rail Road with 244 prime mover intact
Owned by Anthricite Historical Railroad Society since 1989.
To be restored as Lehigh Valley 596.

604 Survives - FA2 - Louisville & Nashville 314
Built in June 1956
Builder Number 81086
Traded in to General Electric by L&N
Retired by Long Island Rail Road with 244 prime mover intact
Purchased by Feather River Rail Society/Portola Railroad
Museum
Sold to the Illinois Railway Museum.

605 Survives - FA2 - Louisville & Nashville 310
Built in May 1956
Builder Number 80904
Traded in to General Electric by L&N
Retired by Long Island Rail Road with 244 prime mover
replaced.
Acquired by Ed Bowers
Moved to the Nashville and Eastern Railroad, Nashville
Tennessee, where it will be used as a HEP/Cab Control Unit
on commuter trains.

606 Scrapped - FA2 - Louisville & Nashville 321
Built in June 1956
Builder Number 81968
Traded in to General Electric by L&N
Scrapped by Long Island Rail Road Summer of 1999
after being wrecked in a grade crossing collision.

607 Preserved - FA2 - Western Maryland 303
Built in January 1951
Builder Number 78606
Sold to General Electric by WM in January 1972
Moved to Baltimore from the Long Island Rail Road for
restoration by the B&O Museum,
where heavy nose damage (grade crossing crash) can be
repaired -
Scheduled to be repainted in WM paint and restored to
operating condition.
One of the last three Alcos on the LIRR, removed in
March 2000 (last FA in service)
stripped of all running components.
Acquired by Gerald Alitzer
Moved to the Durbin & Greenbriar Valley for excursion service
in April 2001, putting this locomotive back on former WM rails
after 29 years.

608 Heavily Modified - FA2 - Western Maryland 304
Built in January 1951
Builder Number 78607
Sold to General Electric by WM in January 1972.
Western Maryland’s entire fleet went to Long Island Rail Road
Converted in 1992 to run with the LIRR’s first bi-level cars.
The nose was chopped off, and the unit was covered in
stainless steel to match the new passenger cars. The
locomotives planned for these cars were delayed, so a GP38
pair pulled the train with 608 (renumbered to 3100)
provided power.

609 Scrapped - FA2 - Western Maryland 301
Built January 1951
Builders Number 78494
Sold to General Electric by WM in June 1972

610 Survives - FA2 - Western Maryland 302
Built in January 1951
Builder Number 78495
Sold to General Electric by WM in June 1972
Retired by Long Island Rail Road with 244 prime mover
Prime mover now inoperable due to freeze damage
Western Maryland Railway Historical Society is attempting to
restore this locomotive.

611 Status?? - FA1 - SPS 856A-2, SPS 857,
Burlington Northern 4102
Built in February 1949
Builder Number 76672
Long Island Rail Road later replaced the 244 prime mover with
a Detroit diesel.

612 Scrapped - FA1 - SPS 856A-1, SPS 856,
Burlington Northern 4100
Built in February 1949
Builder Number 76671
Long Island Rail Road later replaced the 244 prime mover with
a Detroit diesel
Scrapped in the early 1990s after an engine compartment fire.

613 Survives - FA1 - SPS 866A-1, SPS 866,
Burlington Northern 4120
Built in December 1950
Builder Number 78286
Long Island Rail Road later replaced the 244 prime mover with
a Detroit diesel.
Currently at the Brooklyn Roundhouse in Portland, Oregon.

614 Survives - FA1 - SPS 858A-2, SPS 857,
Burlington Northern 4102
Built in February 1949
Builder Number 76672
Long Island Rail Road later replaced the 244 prime mover with
a Detroit diesel.
The last of the HEP Cab units operated by the LIRR,
One of the last three Alcos to leave the LIRR.
Removed in March 2000, to Hydro Power in Bridgeton,NJ for
salvage of the HEP unit. .

615 Survives - FA1 - SPS 864A-1, SPS 864,
Burlington Northern 4116
Built in April 1949
Builder Number 76838
Long Island Rail Road later replaced the 244 prime mover with
a Detroit diesel.
One of the last three Alcos to leave the LIRR,
Removed in March 2000 to Hydro Power in Bridgeton,NJ for
salvage of the HEP unit.
Purchased by SEPTA (Philadelphia Commuter Railroad)
Will be used for the spread of a gel on the railhead to promote
adhesion (equipment will be located where prime mover and
generator were) - Will be used primarily on the ex-Reading
portion of SEPTA - Painted solid blue with yellow handrails-
Control stand retained, and cab signal ad speed control added.

616 Survives - FA1 - SPS 860A-1, SP&S 860,
Burlington Northern 4018
Built February 1949
Builder Number 76675
In excursion service on the Quebec Central.

617 Survives - FA1 - New Haven 0428 - Penn Central 1333
Traded in to GE in U23B purchase in 1971.
Prime mover and generator rebuilt by General Electric, traction
motors removed
Re-powered with Detroit Diesel in 1987
Now owned by Danbury Railway Museum, Danbury CT.

618 Survives - FA1 - New Haven 0401 - Penn Central 1330 -
Traded in to General Electric in U23B purchase in 1971
Engine and generator rebuilt by GE, traction motors removed -
original 244 intact
Originally sold to the Connecticut Valley Railroad in Jan 1986
Cosmetically restored as NH 0401, in red and black paint.
Under complete restoration by the present owner, Railroad
Museum Of New England
Ultimately to be restored in the NH green and gold paint
scheme.

619 Survives - F9 - Milwaukee Western 126A
In Florida on the Seminole Gulf Railroad for excursion and
dinner train service
Stored at Ft. Myers.

620 Survives - F7 - Milwaukee Western 85A
Moved to Hydro Power in Bridgeton, NJ for salvage of the HEP
unit
Swapped for an ex-SP&S FB1
In Albany, Oregon near the Willamette and Pacific engine
service track.

621 Survives - F7 - Baltimore & Ohio 4599
In Florida on the Seminole Gulf Railroad for excursion and
dinner train service
Stored at Ft. Myers.

622 Survives - F7 - Baltimore & Ohio 4524
At Hydro Power in Bridgeton, NJ for salvage of the HEP unit in
2000.
Moved to SEPTA in April 2001, for gel train service, (see 615
for details).

623 Status?? - F7 - Baltimore & Ohio 4535

We all know some of these units have been changed since, but this list was online a while back. I'm sure it isn't all accurate.

There once was someone who made resin kits of P-72 coaches. I bought one and built it. Never painted it and of course I wish now I had bought a second. I also wish I learned how to better deal with building resin kits before I put the kit together. Its ok looking but not perfect. I don't think the kits were mass produced. They were pricey if I recall and were sold I believe exclusively through Willis Hobbies.

On a side note, two of my very first models were that of GP-38-2 #277 and FA #615 both custom painted in Blue and White with red stripe. The GP-38 is an Atlas product and the FA is Model Power. I still have them and they served well at my company Christmas layout this past December.

Athern a number of years ago produced some real nice LI models. I own an HO model of F7 #620 in MTA blue and white. Athern also produced LI cars, 2 of which I own. I might be interested in selling the cars (which need some TLC). I'll try and get some pictures for anyone interested.

-Tom

you know you HO people are lucky man, all I got in Nscale are RS1's FM's and hacks, and oh yea Model power is comming out with a 2-6-0 the rest has to be custom painted.
Mike

walthers is making a B60 baggage car in lirr as well as the Fa,i would hope they would make coaches or somthing.

Walthers Hvyweight Pullmans are nice. some re working of the mold can make one into a P72 do a little more work and youll get a P75

I they have sucess with the FA and Athern/Lifelike has success with the geeps, then cars are not far to follow.

I called atlas once, and they told me that LIRR is a hot name for them and they are considering rolling sotck nd more road #/Paints chemes pain LI

Check out Images Replicas website for LIRR coaches in resin. THey are pricey, but they are beautiful.

hopefully theyll get to commercially avaliable(and affordible) M1-7s,MP54s,MP72s and 1100s and other MUs and maybe DD1s.

Guys,

Lets get some letters in to Athern to make some prototypicaly accurate P72/75's

im shure we will get some kind of feed back or somthing.

I was told by bachmann that they will do a long Island train set or just locomotive and cars if i were able to get some one (Ie hobbyshop) to order the nescary quanites. that being said some one will need to order 500-1000+ sets or indivisual equpt, and they will do it.

any one out there with ideas or tips to get somthing rolling.

It's always nice to dream!

Otto, its not a dream

I did contatc bachmann once, i got the reply on my other computer.

they wount make a mold and change the presses for 1 or 2 sets or cars.. we need some one who will take the risk at business to place an order for a Long Island set, or pass cars, ect. if they order the nescaet quanites then they will produce the product.

its all business.