• Harlem Division Milk Trains in 1910

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Discussion relating to the NYC and subsidiaries, up to 1968. Visit the NYCS Historical Society for more information.

Moderator: Otto Vondrak

  by Johnny F
 
November 27, 1910 Harlem Division ETT #14 shows the following milk trains:

Northbound
#77 (Rutland Milk): lv No. White Plains 2:55 am, ar Chatham 7:25 am (1 sched stop)
#75: lv No. White Plains 6:00 am, ar Chatham 12:22 pm (18 sched stops)

Southbound
#80: lv Chatham 11:35 am, ar No. White Plains 8:30 pm (14 sched stops)
#88 (Rutland Milk): lv Chatham 8:35 pm, ar No. White Plains 12:21 am (1 sched stop)

The northbound runs were empties - #77 for delivery to the Rutland, #75 to deliver empties to the on-line creameries. Likewise, the southbounds were all loads - #80 to pickup from the local creameries and #88 being a solid train of milk from the Rutland. According to “The Coming of the New York and Harlem” by Louis Grogan, the Rutland interchanged their milk trains with the Harlem at Chatham. They didn’t run any “through” trains.

Related question – the ETT shows northbound #85 as also being NK3, southbounds #84 as KN2 & #86 as KN4. All three are listed as Fast Freights. What does “NK” and “KN” stand for?

Thanks in advance.
  by Ocala Mike
 
Just guessing: N = North White Plains
K = Katonah
  by Johnny F
 
"N" for North White Plains may be a possibility, but Katonah doesn't strike me as a "destination" for a symbol freight. The train doesn't stop there anyway. "KN" is in parentheses, so maybe the "K" is actually a place on the Rutland.

KN was the telegraph call for Vallhalla, adding to the mystery.....
  by Otto Vondrak
 
Ocala Mike wrote:K = Katonah
Katonah is a good guess, but our office call was always "WV" as the original name of Katonah was "Whitlockville." No reason for the Rut Milks to stop there anyway...


-otto-
  by Tommy Meehan
 
K stands for Chatham and N stands for New York-72nd St Yard.

I have an early Harlem Division ETT and the trains you refer to first show up westbound on the Harlem Division at MO. They used the West Side Freight Line from 72nd Street to Spuyten Duyvil and then the Hudson Division to Mott Haven.