RearOfSignal wrote:SystemsConsciousness wrote:What about leaving the station?
Oh my goodness, where did we get this guy?
Anyway, several points you stated make no sense. You said wait until off-peak periods to allow the G into Manhattan through the (A)&(C) tunnels. Did you ever think about what you said before you posted? Why during periods of less ridership would you make the G go into Manhattan when fewer riders are taking the train anyway? Just because you can? That's like running one train every hour during the morning rush, but two every hour during late nights. Just because you could doesn't mean you should or that its practical.
Improve the signalling? Well then explain how. Do you even know how the signal system works? You can only fit so many trains one right behind the other on the same track no matter the signal system used.
You fail to understand one very important point... There has to be a demand for service in order for it to be useful. Services that aren't useful are wasteful, waste cost money. What happened to the (9)? It did not provide a useful service, since very similar service was provided by the (1).
Ok, let me try to clarify:
>> Anyway, several points you stated make no sense. You said wait until off-peak periods to allow the G into Manhattan through the (A)&(C) tunnels. Did you ever think about what you said before you posted? Why during periods of less ridership would you make the G go into Manhattan when fewer riders are taking the train anyway? Just because you can? That's like running one train every hour during the morning rush, but two every hour during late nights. Just because you could doesn't mean you should or that its practical.<<
If the E were to merge with the G train (and not making stops south of H/S) then the mileage would be roughly the same, so it would not be additional service. I realize this is a bit complicated with out a visual diagram, but do you get what I mean here? If there were a single seat ride to Manhattan there would be more ridership than there is now in off peak times and because of the truncation of the G where it overlaps with the F and the use of the E which terminated at WTC it wouldn't require additional miles, just a few more cars as the E trains are full length.
Here is another clearer way to say what I mean. At off peak times, the E can extend into Brooklyn and up the G route. These trains would replace G trains that would be running then, so it would be neutral. If you don't the idea of the E doing it because it goes to LIC anyway, then switch the E with the C and have the C go there and the E extend to where the C presently terminates.
>>Improve the signalling? Well then explain how. Do you even know how the signal system works? You can only fit so many trains one right behind the other on the same track no matter the signal system used.<<
As far as signaling goes. There is an ongoing project to improve signaling throughout the subway. This is why the L train is not running on weekends. Once the new signaling is in on that line trains can be spaced closer together. This is all I am saying about the A/C brooklyn tunnel signaling. Make sense?
>>You fail to understand one very important point... There has to be a demand for service in order for it to be useful. Services that aren't useful are wasteful, waste cost money. What happened to the (9)? It did not provide a useful service, since very similar service was provided by the 9<<
I am not sure if you are familiar with the 1/9 train idea, but it was really just a stop skipping idea. I don't think they added any trains or removed them when the 9 was taken away, they just stopped skipping stops, so this is apples and oranges.
Demand is based on usefulness of service. If there was no one living on the G line I would agree with you, but there are plenty of people moving there now. These people--many of them--work in Manhattan, why not take the train into Manhattan then, especially since it will cost very little since the aforementioned connection to the E train which terminates at WTC.
Does this make sense now?