Acela II (Alstom Avelia Liberty): Design, Production, Delivery, Acceptance

liftedjeep wrote: ↑Mon Apr 27, 2020 2:45 pm The Avelia Liberty set is still in Penn Coach Yard as of Monday, April 27th. The set has been moved forward a bit, closer to the upper platform level at 30th Street Station. There was a very small crew out today, working around the Acela II set:

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... id=5306270

Ben

The very hungry caterpillar comes to mind.

Jeff Smith wrote: ↑Wed Apr 29, 2020 8:40 amSeriously

Aaaaaaamen!

ADMIN NOTE

We asked you, again and again, to move on from the paint scheme. You didn’t.

Some of your posts were summarily removed.

Let’s leave the paint scheme behind, shall we?

praise to the admins for this righteous judgement

I don't mind a good discussion, and paint scheme is included. But after a while it becomes a distraction to what's actually going on. The paint. Is the paint. Is the paint. It's not going to change; it is. What. It is. Let's talk about delivery, acceptance, operations, sightings, pictures, etc. Paint is old news.

Capiche?

Volks, as Mr. Smith notes, what counts is Acela II's public acceptance, if Amtrak is placing their bets that the Power Car's siding is not contoured to that of the cars and that the livery, with the ugly "danger ahead" Red doors apparently for First Class, are not "turn offs", then so be it.

For reasons I've noted at the 49th Birthday topic, and for which there has been concurrence, the "base" of passengers from which Amtrak has to draw, has been noticeably diminished. We can only hope that this new equipment, will attract new passengers to first recover the base shortfall and add to such.

Hallelujah and Amen.

Believe Alstrom has an idea of a "mid-life" power car upgrade for the Acela II's if the required tech for the upgrade is developed and proven out.
Am not worried about the "Slab sided" power car,Alstrom's R&D wasn't worried in the scaled "wind tunnel" testing.
The only odd thing is the M-8 style coupler in the nose instead of a knuckle coupler,any rescue power needs to carry a "cheater"
for towing the set to the nearest "repair point".

Now hoping that the new train is better than how it seems so far. Just getting a bad feeling about it.

When Set # 1 is done testing at Pueblo and certified,we might see Set # 2 allowed to roam the NEC for testing.

Is Pueblo even up and operating? And assuming it is, how much longer should it take assuming no major problems there?

Get real Cheater couplers probably will be carried on each A-2 set both ends.

So if the set in Philly isn't going anywhere until it gets PTC installed, I'm curious, is like that a 6 hour, 6 day, or 6 month type job?

Wonder why they sent it out without the PTC gear installed already, unless they are testing it at Pueblo before installing in the 2nd and upcoming 3rd set.

Backshophoss wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 4:24 pm Believe Alstrom has an idea of a "mid-life" power car upgrade for the Acela II's if the required tech for the upgrade is developed and proven out.
Am not worried about the "Slab sided" power car,Alstrom's R&D wasn't worried in the scaled "wind tunnel" testing.
The only odd thing is the M-8 style coupler in the nose instead of a knuckle coupler,any rescue power needs to carry a "cheater"
for towing the set to the nearest "repair point".

Wasn't one of the requirements from Amtrak the ability to couple two (or more?) trainsets together? How does this vs an AAR coupler affect that?