by Elcamo
I'm curious as to what the title says, which routes are the most profitable on the mbta? Any ideas where I can find this information?
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DutchRailnut wrote:in Public transportation Profitable is a non existing word.Actually, the Tokyo and Hong Kong metro systems have fairbox recovery ratios WELL over 100%, around 150% IIRC.
obienick wrote:Actually, the Tokyo and Hong Kong metro systems have fairbox recovery ratios WELL over 100%, around 150% IIRC.Yes and no. The MTR subway system (in Hong Kong) is point to point ticketing. You buy a ticket from point A to point B and you use to get in, then use it again to get out. The exit gate keeps the ticket for re-encoding and reuse. Their commuter rail system (Kowloon-Canton Railway) is the same. Their bus and streetcar system is a flat fare IIRC and there are no transfers between the streetcar, bus and the subway.
KEN PATRICK wrote:you need to re-phrase. 'what routes ( service type) lose the least.' light rail then heavy rail. buses are the worst, followed by the boats. ken patrickI thought boats covered operating expenses well? Especially when you factor in alcohol sales.
DutchRailnut wrote:and again if Hong Kong and a few other cover daily operating cost,thats just man power and energy used,it does not include renewal of fleet or infrastructure which are listed under capital improvements.The profit can be used to finance long term capital improvements. In Tokyo, most of the commuter rail agencies are private. All of them are profitable.
again profitability is non-existing word in public transportation
Matthew wrote:If your statement is true, it still is comparing apples to oranges. Tokyo has a higher population density (about 50% more than Boston) and as such, more people take the rail rather than drive. It's also most likely faster than driving. They have increased ridership due to space constraints.DutchRailnut wrote:and again if Hong Kong and a few other cover daily operating cost,thats just man power and energy used,it does not include renewal of fleet or infrastructure which are listed under capital improvements.The profit can be used to finance long term capital improvements. In Tokyo, most of the commuter rail agencies are private. All of them are profitable.
again profitability is non-existing word in public transportation
You might try taking off the ideological blinders once in a while.