by swedishmeatball83
Hello All -
I have read several times that SEPTA adopted a transit-like mentality concerning their commuter lines, which seems very odd to me. I recently saw it written about here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SEPTA_Regional_Rail
Criticism
Transitize
Ever since SEPTA assumed full operations from Conrail in 1983, critics have regularly accused SEPTA management of having little understanding of traditional railroad operations or ridership. The fact that SEPTA has refused to operate diesel trains since 1981, expand services without electrification, and has truncated service on several lines since 1983, lends creedence to the idea that SEPTA management operates the commuter rail network half heartedly, and views its commuter rail operations in transit terms rather than than something uniquely different.[8]
On several occasions, SEPTA has tried to convert the Reading Company side of the system (R2 Warminster, R3 West Trenton, R5 Lansdale-Doylestown, R6 Norristown/Manayunk, R7 Chestnut Hill East, R8 Fox Chase/Newtown) from traditional railroad operations to transit-type operations. The concept was quietly discussed prior to the 1983 takeover of commuter operation, but dismissed as infeasible for the short term. If transitized, the regional rail system would operate outside of the U.S. railroad network, freeing it from most railroad-oriented federal regulations, including railroad work rules, federal safety equipment inspection requirements, and Railroad Retirement. As of 2010, this idea continues to surface and has not been ruled out by SEPTA.[9] Future expansion projects, such as the ill-fated Schuylkill Valley Metro, are designed with transit-type operations in mind and frequent headways.
PA Rail
Over the last 15 years, several proposals have been drafted by state legislators to create a state rail passenger service authority that would oversee all commuter rail operations throughout the commonwealth. The goal would be to relieve SEPTA of its management duties while the commonwealth concentrates on growing the currently constrained network. SEPTA's services would be utilized to operate the trains only.[10]
So here are my questions:
1) Is SEPTA still trying to push for the Reading side of the system to become a transit operation? Or have they pushed this to the backburner?
2) Is the Commomwealth still considering creating this "PA Rail" idea, and stripping SEPTA of managing the commuter lines?
Thanks to all.
I have read several times that SEPTA adopted a transit-like mentality concerning their commuter lines, which seems very odd to me. I recently saw it written about here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SEPTA_Regional_Rail
Criticism
Transitize
Ever since SEPTA assumed full operations from Conrail in 1983, critics have regularly accused SEPTA management of having little understanding of traditional railroad operations or ridership. The fact that SEPTA has refused to operate diesel trains since 1981, expand services without electrification, and has truncated service on several lines since 1983, lends creedence to the idea that SEPTA management operates the commuter rail network half heartedly, and views its commuter rail operations in transit terms rather than than something uniquely different.[8]
On several occasions, SEPTA has tried to convert the Reading Company side of the system (R2 Warminster, R3 West Trenton, R5 Lansdale-Doylestown, R6 Norristown/Manayunk, R7 Chestnut Hill East, R8 Fox Chase/Newtown) from traditional railroad operations to transit-type operations. The concept was quietly discussed prior to the 1983 takeover of commuter operation, but dismissed as infeasible for the short term. If transitized, the regional rail system would operate outside of the U.S. railroad network, freeing it from most railroad-oriented federal regulations, including railroad work rules, federal safety equipment inspection requirements, and Railroad Retirement. As of 2010, this idea continues to surface and has not been ruled out by SEPTA.[9] Future expansion projects, such as the ill-fated Schuylkill Valley Metro, are designed with transit-type operations in mind and frequent headways.
PA Rail
Over the last 15 years, several proposals have been drafted by state legislators to create a state rail passenger service authority that would oversee all commuter rail operations throughout the commonwealth. The goal would be to relieve SEPTA of its management duties while the commonwealth concentrates on growing the currently constrained network. SEPTA's services would be utilized to operate the trains only.[10]
So here are my questions:
1) Is SEPTA still trying to push for the Reading side of the system to become a transit operation? Or have they pushed this to the backburner?
2) Is the Commomwealth still considering creating this "PA Rail" idea, and stripping SEPTA of managing the commuter lines?
Thanks to all.