Thanks for the info! The reason I was aking was that I was reading a recent article in one of the train mags (I think it was railfan and railroad) about the seperate BNSF and UP lines north of Bakersfield and they mentioned that the UP sent around 25 trains a day over that stretch. I thought the Palmdale cutoff only saw around 12 trains a day, so figured there must have been a lot of traffic joining that line off the Saugus line. But if the Saugus line is only seeing a few trains a day, then either the article is overstating the UP train counts on that line or I have the Palmdale cutoff figures underestimated. I was out at Cajon a couple years back and remember that line being pretty quiet, and some local fans at that time metioned there was only a dozen or so trains a day. Hmm....