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Tom V wrote: It would be significantly quicker for commuters to transfer to the 7 train at Secaucus then to ride all the way to Hoboken to make the connection.I don't see this. What are your assumptions? Here are mine:
Routing:
- A straight line from W23rd to Secaucus Jct is about 4 miles but would have to be nearly 100% tunnel
- A tunnel from W23rd to Hoboken is 1.6 miles
- The surface route from Hoboken to Secaucus is 4 miles
- Adding Hoboken is only 1.6 miles out of the way (50%), and would involve half the tunneling (lower cost)
- I'm advocating either that the 7 go from W23rd to Hoboken only, or W23rd-Hoboken-Secaucus
Terminal time during transfer:
- I'm assuming that whether a rider transfers at Secaucus or Hoboken their walk & wait would be the same
- There's no reason for anyone to end a trip at Secaucus (100% transfer)
- Some trips can end at Hoboken (office development)
- Hoboken offers additional connections to PATH & HBLR
- Transfers are more likely to get an empty NJT seat at Hoboken (outbound) but would get an empty 7 seat at Secaucus (inbound)
Train Speeds
- Subway trains don't do higher speeds well (too many wheels/ too much vibration / bad seats / standees)
- Commuter rail would be faster and/or more comfortable for the 4 mile trip from Secaucus to Hoboken
"Trying to solve congestion by making roadways wider is like trying to solve obesity by buying bigger pants."--Charles Marohn