by ns3010
F-line to Dudley via Park wrote:It's both actually. The average EMU (and presumably these DMU's as well) do not use standard railroad couplers. They use special spear couplers that contain all air, electrical, and MU lines within the face of the coupler. The only way to couple them to non-MU equipment is using a compromise coupler that plugs into the spear coupler. However, this limits the MAS of the train, and only air connections would be able to be made, with no electrical connections possible whatsoever.trainhq wrote:It's not couplers, it's MU electronics.And no current model can couple with an off-shelf coach to quickie-increase the capacity with a trailer. For same reason all the MNRR/LIRR, NJT, and SEPTA EMU's can't. The MU electronics can't correct for generic dead weight of unknown properties. They would have to buy wholly separate custom trailers from the DMU manufacturer akin to the M8/Silverliner/Arrow singlets that are specifically engineered to work seamlessly with the MU trainlining. Which is expensive, not very efficient fleet utilization, and exacerbates the southside storage problem.Yes, but that's at present. I mean, couplers are couplers. They could arrange the DMUS to tow additional trailer cars if
they want (although the experience of Tri-Rail suggests that only one would be likely). The point is, if they gain wide
acceptance this is a problem that can be solved later. It would take time and $$$, but it's doable.
F-line to Dudley via Park wrote:The one great white hope in this is that NJT/Bombardier proposal for "power car" EMU's to replace the Arrows.This is extremely unlikely to happen. Firstly, because NJT has put this project on hold for now, with no immediate plans for these to be built. Secondly, the Multilevels can only trainline with other ML's. Although there was once the idea of NJT using mixed ML/Comet sets, the cars turned out to be incompatible, forcing the ML's to be used only in their own sets. IF these things were to ever actually get built (and work), I wouldn't count on seeing them anywhere other than on NJT (and I guess MARC, in theory, since they're getting ML's now too). That is, unless the T were to order ML trailers, which is also rather unlikely.
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IF this concept works and IF NJT and the other roads sniffing around (MNRR/LIRR are interested as M3 replacements for rush hour)...then they've solved for the trainlining issue and a DMU platform based on this technology should quickly follow the modestly simpler EMU version. (And, hey, this might be 'the' killer app that finally gets the T using EMU's to Providence if they can use the existing coaches with it). But those vehicles wouldn't appear before 2018 on the most overoptimistic estimate, and any DMU offshoots definitely not before 2020.