by Suburban Station
The much bigger idea in the article is through routing...the station name is small potatoes. Provided were talking about the biz journal article
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Clearfield wrote:SEPTA certainly needs to worry about how to get Amtrak customers past the fare gates. Has this problem ever been posed at the NPT sessions? If Amtrak loses the link, I'd think they'd push back on other access points (or shared rail terms) such that it would not be worthwhile for SEPTA to break their agreement.ExCon90 wrote:And yes, the free transfer still exists, and I think SEPTA is still trying to figure out how to integrate it into NPT.Per SEPTA's approved tariff, the free transfer exists only as long as there is a separate agreement in force between SEPTA and Amtrak.
If that agreement expires or is terminated by either side, SEPTA won't need to worry about how to integrate it into NPT.
Launcher wrote:SEPTA certainly needs to worry about how to get Amtrak customers past the fare gates. Has this problem ever been posed at the NPT sessions? If Amtrak loses the link, I'd think they'd push back on other access points (or shared rail terms) such that it would not be worthwhile for SEPTA to break their agreement.Had SEPTA included optical scanning as a payment option (they were banking on NFC chips in all cell phones by the time NPT rolled out, and iPhones still don't have them), SEPTA faregates and conductors could scan the AMTRAK ticket barcode or QR code and link to AMTRAK's reservation system to validate the code and generate a payment (AMTRAK to SEPTA) voucher.
Clearfield wrote:Does amtrak pay for such transfers now or is it a blanket monthly fee or is it quid pro quo part of being a partnership on the shared and mostly Amtrak-maintained infrastructure?Launcher wrote:SEPTA certainly needs to worry about how to get Amtrak customers past the fare gates. Has this problem ever been posed at the NPT sessions? If Amtrak loses the link, I'd think they'd push back on other access points (or shared rail terms) such that it would not be worthwhile for SEPTA to break their agreement.Had SEPTA included optical scanning as a payment option (they were banking on NFC chips in all cell phones by the time NPT rolled out, and iPhones still don't have them), SEPTA faregates and conductors could scan the AMTRAK ticket barcode or QR code and link to AMTRAK's reservation system to validate the code and generate a payment (AMTRAK to SEPTA) voucher.
Launcher wrote:Does amtrak pay for such transfers now or is it a blanket monthly fee or is it quid pro quo part of being a partnership on the shared and mostly Amtrak-maintained infrastructure?There is a separate contract between AMTRAK and SEPTA to cover this,
jonnhrr wrote:How do trains get from upper level 30th St. to NEC towards NYC? I don't recall a connection into Zoo in that direction, only towards Paoli/Harrisburg.Trains from 30th St. UL to Paoli normally leave from Track 4, with Track 3, to its left, used by trains for North Philadelphia and east. To the left of that is Powelton Ave. Coach Yard, then Tracks 2 and 1. Beyond the end of Powelton Ave. yard, Tracks 3 and 2 come together and descend below the level of Track 4 and curve to the right underneath Track 4, which veers left overhead toward Overbrook. On Saturdays and Sundays there are hourly simultaneous departures at xx:49 from 30th St. for Trenton (on 3) and Malvern or Thorndale (on 4). In theory, if both trains leave at the same moment, there should be a neck-and-neck movement of both trains until the Trenton ducks down and runs underneath the Malvern train overhead. Don't know how often it happens that precisely in real life.
Jon
Clearfield wrote:septa is the only one interested in ending the agreementLauncher wrote:Does amtrak pay for such transfers now or is it a blanket monthly fee or is it quid pro quo part of being a partnership on the shared and mostly Amtrak-maintained infrastructure?There is a separate contract between AMTRAK and SEPTA to cover this,
SCB2525 wrote:NJT Atlantic City Service probably makes the most sense.Diesels can't run in the tunnel.
SCB2525 wrote:Buy more ALP-45DPs.SCB: Remember ALP45DP's cost $9 million dollars each and to use them on AC trains only accessing Suburban Station using 11KV AC
I would be interested as to what AC service running into Suburban and even Market East would do to that line's ridership.