• Cape Flyer

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Discussion relating to commuter rail, light rail, and subway operations of the MBTA.

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  by Rbts Stn
 
Dick H wrote:On the NECN "This Week in Business" today (6/29), one of the topics
was the tourism business on Cape Cod. While the Cape Flyer was
shown, the Chair of the Cape Cod Chamber of Commerce noted that
it is a 2 1/2 - 3 hour trip. She also predicted there will be a new
toll bridge over the Cape Cod Canal in the next five to seven years.
The segment is available at this URL:
http://www.necn.com/06/29/14/TWIB-Summe ... edID=11128" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Toll bridge leading to the same overcrowded Routes 3, 6, and 28?

Nothankyouverymuch
  by railfanner01
 
Where are they getting 2.5-3 hours from? its 2 hours and 18 minutes.
  by highgreen215
 
Just a sloppy estimate. In her position she should have been better informed and more enthusiastic about the Flyer. She certainly supported (promoted) the new air service.
  by wicked
 
Rbts Stn wrote:Toll bridge leading to the same overcrowded Routes 3, 6, and 28?

Nothankyouverymuch
That's what people forget about when they sell the bridge. I'm not paying $X to fly across a bridge and then hit another bottleneck in Sandwich. The roads on the other side of the canal aren't getting widened anytime soon.

Back to rail... the service was not promoted adequately this year. There was little notice of when the trains would start, delays of getting the schedule out there, talk of changing the schedule for a Cape-only run that never happened, etc. With a service as young as the Flyer, reliability is paramount. Agencies couldn't get their stories straight before the season, and that in turn may have led to confusion among the non-railfan segment of the population that would actually ride the train.
  by MickD
 
And that estimate also w/o consideration
for the legal battles sure to ensue regarding
all the high end real estate that's been built
on both sides of The Canal......
  by Clean Cab
 
railfanner01 wrote:Where are they getting 2.5-3 hours from? its 2 hours and 18 minutes.
I could be a lot less if the train doesn't have to make stops between Boston and Middleboro, and if the state would replace worn out rails on the Cape and raise the speeds.
  by MickD
 
Agreed..but track upgrade on this side
not likely in this decade....
  by Clean Cab
 
That is what is know as a big "IF".
  by The ViRoCo
 
Just to let people know, the Flyer will be operating on Thursday on a Friday schedule, and Friday through Sunday on a Saturday/Sunday schedule. Extra coaches are to be added for the big weekend.
  by Adams_Umass_Boston
 
The ViRoCo wrote:Extra coaches are to be added for the big weekend.
Is that because of advanced ticket sales, or optimism?
  by Dick H
 
Regarding the proposed third bridge with tolls, I agree that it would be a boondoggle.
The bridge itself would do nothing for the congestion on both sides of the canal.
In addition, no one would use the toll bridge during off peak periods, with the
result that the tolls would never be enough to pay off the bonds, along with
maintenance, etc. You could upgrade the rail line from the Canal Jct to Hyannis
to 59 MPH for probably half what the engineering on the toll bridge would cost..
  by Clean Cab
 
The ViRoCo wrote:Just to let people know, the Flyer will be operating on Thursday on a Friday schedule, and Friday through Sunday on a Saturday/Sunday schedule. Extra coaches are to be added for the big weekend.

Actually, the current consist is maxed out at 8 cars (6 double-deckers & 2 single level) and one engine, so it will most likely be used again over the 4 day weekend. The thinking is that since the 4th is on a Friday, ridership should be at last year's level. Fingers crossed.
  by GP40MC1118
 
Count for June 29th:
49 & 6 bikes out of Boston including 4 on at Wareham
120 out of Hyannis with 2 on and 2 off at Wareham. 8 bikes from Hyannis.

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  by Rbts Stn
 
Dick H wrote:Regarding the proposed third bridge with tolls, I agree that it would be a boondoggle.
The bridge itself would do nothing for the congestion on both sides of the canal.
In addition, no one would use the toll bridge during off peak periods, with the
result that the tolls would never be enough to pay off the bonds, along with
maintenance, etc. You could upgrade the rail line from the Canal Jct to Hyannis
to 59 MPH for probably half what the engineering on the toll bridge would cost..
Maybe if they have the bridge not hit the Cape until Brewster?
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