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Pertaining to all railroading subjects, past and present, in New England

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  by Otto Vondrak
 
CannaScrews wrote:Sorry Otto - they are not muscle cars, but more like a 1953 Buick Roadmaster with Hydromatic drive. Given that they are GM products with the same time frame, the analogy is striking. I've run/ridden in both. The modus operandi is - stomp on the gas, the engine revs up & you s-l-o-w-l-y start. No neck-snapping acceleration a la ALCO. Eventually you can get up to the speed desired & maintain it.
You're absolutely correct, a much better analogy. Fond memories of listening to FL9's slowly accelerate out of Katonah and Cold Spring on warm summer nights. While they don't run often on the Naugatuck, rest assured they are in good hands, and I think the general sentiment is that they'd like to see them return to service sometime. A few other items ahead of them on the list, though.

-otto-
  by CannaScrews
 
ZOG:

I defer to a memory which has more functioning brain cells..... maybe....

But I think the same result can be accomplished with the Idle-Run switch. I'm not going to check the schematic!!!!

Otto - my sediments [sic] exactly, nice to have FL9s on hand - especially going through the "tunnel of love" whilst changing ends.

HF - you might have a little problem getting in line should someone mess with the 529 in that manner. A finely tuned machine like that should be treated with respect which is not so say that the 529 cannot do brain surgery should the need be made evident. Just lazy people [on the LIRR i.e. Pennsy -whoops - duck!] not wanting to flick their wrists to become one with the machine.
  by Noel Weaver
 
There is no idle on the selector on an FL-9, only off, D for diesel and E for electric and B for the ones that at one time had dynamic brakes. The engines were geared for 90 MPH operation although there were higher gear ratios available, 90 was fast enough on the New Haven. An old Amtrak timetables lists the top speed for the FL-9's at 100 MPH, I don't know whether the gear ratio was changed for this or what.

You could rev up the diesel all you want but it did not load up any faster, the governor prevent that from happening. At one time most if not all of the Metro-North FL-9's had a toggle switch in the cab to engage a fast start and when this was used, they loaded up maximum amperage in the first notch and the engineer had to be extra careful using it. I remember having that set up when I was running on the Harlem to Brewster for a while in 1984 or 1985 when there were still a few jobs with diesels and coaches to Brewster.

There are proper ways of operating a diesel electric locomotive and abusing it is not one of them.
Noel Weaver
  by CannaScrews
 
Agreed Noel. Abuse of a tool by the engineer rates somewhere below lawyers, politicians & used car salesmen in my book.

Sorry for any confusion, I was referring to the Idle/Run switch on the RS-3.
  by DutchRailnut
 
The Amtrak FL-9's when rebuilt were given bigger traction motors and a higher gear ratio, in last two years of operation the remaining Amtrak's got freight gearing for use on work trains.
As for fast start switch on MNCR FL-9's, that put the unit in straight parallel with no transition other than field shunting at 60 mph.
The ConnDot FL-9 (Chrome) and FL-9m's(MK) retained their series parallel setup.
  by Otto Vondrak
 
Noel Weaver wrote:Here is an interesting item from today's Waterbury paper, don't look at the foreground but at what is in the background...
That young bear cub was just trying to get a better look at the FL9s!!
  by tsrachaser
 
For those who might be interested... the first in a series of articles about rebuilding a diesel locomotive from the RMNE Locomotive Maintenance staff, along with pictures, has been posted on the blog.

As always, if you have any comments, or want to support the RMNE endeavors, drop us a line at [email protected]

http://naugy.blogspot.com
  by H.F.Malone
 
Some news from the Naugy:

103 Leaves Essex for a New Home

After spending the last 38 years at the Valley Railroad in Essex, Connecticut, steam locomotive #103 moved to its new home on Thursday June 25. At 9:15 pm that evening, 103 touched down on the rails of the Naugatuck Railroad in Waterville, Connecticut. The “Naugy” is the operating heritage railroad of the Railroad Museum of New England (RMNE).

103 was built by the Baldwin Locomotive Works in November 1925, for the Sumter & Choctaw Railroad, a small logging railway in northern Alabama. It has a 2-6-2 wheel arrangement. The engine worked there for over 30 years, and was sold in 1962 to the Empire State Railway Museum of Middletown, NY. 103 operated at Middletown until late 1966, and was moved to the new Valley Railroad at Essex in early 1971. As the crews worked to get ready for the Valley’s opening day in the summer of 1971, 103 was readied for her role as the first steam locomotive of the new railroad. After a midnight test run (the first operation of 103 at VRR), 103 triumphantly pulled the first 3-car VRR train into the Essex depot on the morning of July 29, 1971-- 100 years to the day of the first run on that very line.

In 1972 and early 73, 103 had to work harder to move the 4 and then 5 car trains needed to carry the growing passenger load, and work commenced on a larger steam locomotive at Essex, 2-8-0 #97. First steamed up in March 1973, 97 entered regular service that summer and quickly replaced little 103. 103 last operated in 1975, and had been on display at Essex ever since.

Ownership of 103 was transferred in 1986 by Empire State to the Railroad Museum of New England. RMNE started operation of the Naugatuck Railroad in 1996 and has been transferring RMNE locomotives and cars from VRR to the Naugy. For the last 8 or 9 years, an RMNE crew has gone to Essex annually, to oil and grease 103’s moving parts.

The move of 103 was done under the supervision of Bob Eberheim, an RMNE member who has decades of professional rigging and heavy hauling experience. Bob coordinated the cranes and the heavy-haul tractor-trailers that loaded, moved and unloaded 103. Starting the loading process in the Essex station parking lot at 3 pm, 103 and tender were loaded and ready to go at 4:30 pm, and they rolled out of Essex for the last time.

Going faster than it ever had on rails, 103 moved along at 50-55 mph until a fan belt broke on the truck hauling the little locomotive. After a two-hour delay for repairs (at $349, it was a very expensive fan belt!), 103 arrived at RMNE’s Chase Yard in Waterville. The tender had already been unloaded and pulled out of the way, and the two cranes were ready to set up and lift 103 off the trailer.

Back on rails at 9:15 pm, tender connected again at 9:40 pm, and safely tucked away on Track 5 in Chase Yard at 10:10 pm, 103 was ready for the next chapter in its 84-year career. And a tired, happy crew closed the gate and went to eat a late dinner. Except for the fan belt trick, the move was without incident, which is just how the RMNE crew likes these things!

103 weighs about 45 tons in working order (steamed up with fire and water in the boiler). It is considered a small steam locomotive, suitable for speeds up to about 20 mph, and easily operated in either direction, as befits a short-line locomotive. The engine and tender together are 50 feet long. The tender carries 3000 gallons of water and 5 tons of coal.

RMNE plans to spruce up 103 and paint it; replace the missing cab windows and make sure the engine is secure against the weather. 103 will be displayed at the 1881 Thomaston station once she is ready.

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Some pics will be posted on the http://www.rmne.org website, showing the move, etc.
  by H.F.Malone
 
And, in other developments, FL9 2019 was tested for operation on Saturday 6/27/09. It will be getting FRA 3-year work in the next few weeks, now that it has fresh batteries and it runs well.
  by Otto Vondrak
 
H.F.Malone wrote:
Some pics will be posted on the http://www.rmne.org website, showing the move, etc.
Photos of the move posted:

http://naugy.blogspot.com/2009/06/103-l ... -home.html

-otto-
  by atsf sp
 
Otto Vondrak wrote:Hot rivet action!! Check it out...

http://naugy.blogspot.com/

-otto-
The second picture down looks like there is a P&W engine in the background but it has NH written on it. What engine is this? http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_RG1QMixeNsQ/S ... C_1008.JPG
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