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Noise Complaints about New York and Atlantic Railway
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by BMT
I heard you guys blasting the horn coming down the Bay Ridge over near Albany Ave. yesterday morning, but you don't hear me complaining about it. I realize that a person was most likely on the ROW and you were doing proper procedure.
by b&p rupture
jayrmli wrote:Federal Law stipulates how the horn is to be blown at railroad crossings. Two longs, one short and a long, the final blast to be sounded while the engine crosses the crossing.As a warning this seems kind of late, the train would've already hit anything in the crossing.
Jay
32 x 5 = 160. However, R32 divided by 5 = R160
by Lupo 10
Just my two cents here.
I work in customer service for a telecommunications company. There are a lot of times that I have to tell my customers that "This is the way it is and that's all that's to it". Of course its all in the delivery. I don't tell them in that way. I use a calm approach and symphathise with them. The only thing the NYA can do in this situation is turn the sympathetic ear to them, display outstanding resolve (as Mr. Krebs seemed to do) and try its best to keep attending any future meetings, keep smiling and keep Santa coming for the neigborhood kids.
Sometimes people just like to hear themselves yell. But I think that both sides know nothing can really change. Its unfortunate that the neigbors hear noise and unfortunate that the NYA has to be ripped apart by its neigbors. But the NYA is taking the high road here. Attend the meetings, smile, wave and hope for the best.
I work in customer service for a telecommunications company. There are a lot of times that I have to tell my customers that "This is the way it is and that's all that's to it". Of course its all in the delivery. I don't tell them in that way. I use a calm approach and symphathise with them. The only thing the NYA can do in this situation is turn the sympathetic ear to them, display outstanding resolve (as Mr. Krebs seemed to do) and try its best to keep attending any future meetings, keep smiling and keep Santa coming for the neigborhood kids.
Sometimes people just like to hear themselves yell. But I think that both sides know nothing can really change. Its unfortunate that the neigbors hear noise and unfortunate that the NYA has to be ripped apart by its neigbors. But the NYA is taking the high road here. Attend the meetings, smile, wave and hope for the best.
by Scrap em All
Just to put my 2 cents in, I'm an NYA engr., and I have been hassled by obnoxious neighbors and even have had rocks thrown at my engine @ 2a.m. by some maniac running out of his house in his pajamas! I say
#*^% em all! You should have expected noise if you moved to a location by a active rail yard. There is nothing more satysfing than winding up 2 sd40s at 6 a.m. in someones back yard. Sounds like a damn 747 engine on takeoff. :D
#*^% em all! You should have expected noise if you moved to a location by a active rail yard. There is nothing more satysfing than winding up 2 sd40s at 6 a.m. in someones back yard. Sounds like a damn 747 engine on takeoff. :D
by b&p rupture
Scrap em All wrote:Just to put my 2 cents in, I'm an NYA engr., and I have been hassled by obnoxious neighbors and even have had rocks thrown at my engine @ 2a.m. by some maniac running out of his house in his pajamas! I sayWas at Metro Mall today and they're building new 3 fam houses adjacent to the ROW. Will the buyers realize they're in the RR's backyard, and not the other way around?
#*^% em all! You should have expected noise if you moved to a location by a active rail yard. There is nothing more satysfing than winding up 2 sd40s at 6 a.m. in someones back yard. Sounds like a damn 747 engine on takeoff. :D
32 x 5 = 160. However, R32 divided by 5 = R160
by bingdude
There is something NYA could try...active noise cancellation.
You hang speakers on the sides of the locos and they get fed the prime mover's sound picked up by a mic, but out of phase so the real noise outside is reduced. It does work, although the "quiet area" is limited. Nothing's gonna reduce the idling sound at a distance of more than 100 yards.
And when some jerk runs around the gates, the engineer can grab that mic and yell: "@$$#!!!&*!
You hang speakers on the sides of the locos and they get fed the prime mover's sound picked up by a mic, but out of phase so the real noise outside is reduced. It does work, although the "quiet area" is limited. Nothing's gonna reduce the idling sound at a distance of more than 100 yards.
And when some jerk runs around the gates, the engineer can grab that mic and yell: "@$$#!!!&*!
by jayrmli
What NYAR should do is form their own NIMBY campaign against the new housing being built near the tracks. That land's in the railroad's backyard, isn't it?
NYAR could tout such things as additional potential trespassers on their property, less land for additional yard space, unsightly views of neighbors at night forgetting to draw their blinds (this one happens more often than you might think! We see you out there, and it usually isn't pretty!) and more potential vandals and crybabies within walking distance of the property.
Beat the NIMBY's at their own game! Today's neighbor is tomorrow's NIMBY.
Please, NYAR, for your own good, become a BANANA now!
Jay
NYAR could tout such things as additional potential trespassers on their property, less land for additional yard space, unsightly views of neighbors at night forgetting to draw their blinds (this one happens more often than you might think! We see you out there, and it usually isn't pretty!) and more potential vandals and crybabies within walking distance of the property.
Beat the NIMBY's at their own game! Today's neighbor is tomorrow's NIMBY.
Please, NYAR, for your own good, become a BANANA now!
Jay