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  by scottychaos
 
Lehighton_Man wrote:Ah yes. Thank you. Forgot about 1989. There is no 2302? Or is that the one in Texas?
No one (outside of FGLK) is exactly sure why the 1989 is *still* the 1989, after 10 years on the roster!

There has never been, offically, a 2302..it is assumed that 1989 will eventually be renumbured to 2302, since that number has been "intentionally left blank" all this time..1989 should logically eventually become 2302..but it hasnt happened yet..

So for now, 1989 remains 1989, and there is still no (and has never been) a 2302.

(what one in Texas?)

Scot
  by K4Pacific
 
Looks like the roster is growing as in Gang MIlls yard this morning are the FGLK 2309, 2310 lined for tonight's HO6. They look OK in Sante Fe paint. Number Boards are missing. Be a nice quiet night to chase the power north.
  by K4Pacific
 
I was going to put this information in another FGLK post that is locked fo some reason. Anyway, the B23-7s 2309, 2310 are marked up for delivery in tonight's HO6 out of Gang Mills. A nice sunny evening chase.
  by Matt Langworthy
 
K4Pacific wrote:I was going to put this information in another FGLK post that is locked fo some reason. Anyway, the B23-7s 2309, 2310 are marked up for delivery in tonight's HO6 out of Gang Mills. A nice sunny evening chase.
Did you get any pics?
  by K4Pacific
 
No pics as they were lashed up on the "pit". A bow coal load and 12T pick up were obscuring them. Crew for HO6 marked for 1500 and would be a nice sunset chase for you. I'm keeping my money machine going.
  by Matt Langworthy
 
K4Pacific wrote:No pics as they were lashed up on the "pit". A bow coal load and 12T pick up were obscuring them. Crew for HO6 marked for 1500 and would be a nice sunset chase for you. I'm keeping my money machine going.
I wish I had the time to chase tonight! Hopefully, somebody will catch the new FGLK units on their way north...
  by Lehighton_Man
 
scottychaos wrote:
Lehighton_Man wrote:Ah yes. Thank you. Forgot about 1989. There is no 2302? Or is that the one in Texas?
No one (outside of FGLK) is exactly sure why the 1989 is *still* the 1989, after 10 years on the roster!

There has never been, offically, a 2302..it is assumed that 1989 will eventually be renumbured to 2302, since that number has been "intentionally left blank" all this time..1989 should logically eventually become 2302..but it hasnt happened yet..

So for now, 1989 remains 1989, and there is still no (and has never been) a 2302.

(what one in Texas?)

Scot
Thank you Scot.
Wasn't a B23-7 and a GP leased to an Army base somewhere in Texas? I think 1703 and 2304 possibly?
  by Matt Langworthy
 
Lehighton_Man wrote:
scottychaos wrote:
Lehighton_Man wrote:Ah yes. Thank you. Forgot about 1989. There is no 2302? Or is that the one in Texas?
No one (outside of FGLK) is exactly sure why the 1989 is *still* the 1989, after 10 years on the roster!

There has never been, offically, a 2302..it is assumed that 1989 will eventually be renumbured to 2302, since that number has been "intentionally left blank" all this time..1989 should logically eventually become 2302..but it hasnt happened yet..

So for now, 1989 remains 1989, and there is still no (and has never been) a 2302.

(what one in Texas?)

Scot
Thank you Scot.
Wasn't a B23-7 and a GP leased to an Army base somewhere in Texas? I think 1703 and 2304 possibly?
Former FGLK # 1702 is on Farmrail in Oklahoma.
  by Lehighton_Man
 
I know about the disposition of 1702, I just recall seeing a thread here about 1703 and 2304 working some sort of project as switchers for a Mud Sands project?
Someone please clarify?
  by scottychaos
 
Lehighton_Man wrote:I know about the disposition of 1702, I just recall seeing a thread here about 1703 and 2304 working some sort of project as switchers for a Mud Sands project?
Someone please clarify?
Scroll down to 2009: http://gold.mylargescale.com/scottychaos/FGLK/

Scot
  by scharnhorst
 
Lehighton_Man wrote:
scottychaos wrote:
Lehighton_Man wrote:Ah yes. Thank you. Forgot about 1989. There is no 2302? Or is that the one in Texas?
No one (outside of FGLK) is exactly sure why the 1989 is *still* the 1989, after 10 years on the roster!

There has never been, offically, a 2302..it is assumed that 1989 will eventually be renumbured to 2302, since that number has been "intentionally left blank" all this time..1989 should logically eventually become 2302..but it hasnt happened yet..

So for now, 1989 remains 1989, and there is still no (and has never been) a 2302.

(what one in Texas?)

Scot
Thank you Scot.
Wasn't a B23-7 and a GP leased to an Army base somewhere in Texas? I think 1703 and 2304 possibly?
Your thinking of that dredge project North of Albany. Two FGLK units were leased out over last summer.
  by scharnhorst
 
scottychaos wrote:
Lehighton_Man wrote:Ah yes. Thank you. Forgot about 1989. There is no 2302? Or is that the one in Texas?
No one (outside of FGLK) is exactly sure why the 1989 is *still* the 1989, after 10 years on the roster!

There has never been, offically, a 2302..it is assumed that 1989 will eventually be renumbured to 2302, since that number has been "intentionally left blank" all this time..1989 should logically eventually become 2302..but it hasnt happened yet..

So for now, 1989 remains 1989, and there is still no (and has never been) a 2302.

(what one in Texas?)

Scot

CR 1979 was the first to be painted i.e. FGLK 2301 which came off of CSX the unit was in rough shape and paint was peeling.
CR 2004 was the Seconed unit painted i.e. FGLK 2303 this unit was ordered repainted by NS before it was delivered to Finger Lakes as fate had it was repainted and renumbered CONRAIL 2004. Conrail 1989 also came off of NS and was also ordered to be repainted by NS as fate it this unit also got repainted Conrail Blue and renumbered 1989. As to why NS did this is unknowen to me but I would suspect or Guess that both units were nearing an overhaul and an Inspection??
  by scottychaos
 
scharnhorst wrote:

CR 2004 was the Seconed unit painted i.e. FGLK 2303 this unit was ordered repainted by NS before it was delivered to Finger Lakes as fate had it was repainted and renumbered CONRAIL 2004. Conrail 1989 also came off of NS and was also ordered to be repainted by NS as fate it this unit also got repainted Conrail Blue and renumbered 1989. As to why NS did this is unknowen to me but I would suspect or Guess that both units were nearing an overhaul and an Inspection??
You might be right about 1989 receiving a coat of fresh CR blue around the year 1999..
but you are clearly wrong about 2004..and they were not "renumbered" 1989 and 2004 just before going to FGLK, as you suggest..they wore those numbers for their entire Conrail careers..they wore those numbers for 20 years before going to FGLK..there was no renumbering done before they went to FGLK..
and only 1989 was possibly repainted..but by NS or by FGLK is uncertain..
(it makes no sense NS would repaint units before being sold..unless it was maybe specified in the sales agreement)

2004 in 1995:
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... id=1004133

1989 in 1997:
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... x?id=67846

Both units had fresh "Conrail Quality" paint applied in the mid-late 90's..only a few years before the CR split..

Here are all three units on FGLK in the year 2000:
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... x?id=11425
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... x?id=11423

1979 and 2004 are clearly wearing somewhat fresh, but still several year old "Conrail Quality" paintjobs..
NS did not repaint them..

1989 does however appear to be wearing a much fresher "dip job" of CR blue..hmmm..
Which brings up yet another interesting aspect of the "Why is 1989 still numbured 1989 and still in Conrail blue today??" question..

Perhaps 1989 has remained in her CR blue paint this long simply because a fresh coat was in fact applied in 1999..
thus no real need to repaint for the past 10 years..

that doesnt however explain why she has never been renumbered..
it doesnt explain why she is still number 1989..

The theory that "she will be renumbered to 2302 when she is repainted" has been suggested..(and I even have that on my site..)
but if you think about, that cant be the reason she hasnt been renumbered yet..
because plenty of newer FGLK locos have been renumbered, but NOT repainted!
2306, 2307, 2308, 2309 and 2310 are all wearing new FGLK numbers, but old paint..
(also 1801 was renumbered without being repainted)

So we might have a reason why 1989 hasnt been repainted (simply because the CR blue is "good")
but paint alone does not explain the reason she has kept the number 1989..

Scot