Discussion relating to the operations of MTA MetroNorth Railroad including west of Hudson operations and discussion of CtDOT sponsored rail operations such as Shore Line East and the Springfield to New Haven Hartford Line

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  by Lackawanna484
BlockLine_4111 wrote:The Monsey NIMBY are the toughest NIMBY around ?


They're up in the big leagues. Makes the folks down in Oradell look like wimps.

  by BlockLine_4111
For comparative sake it sounds like they have tremendous clout.

  by wantsrail

The no-rail section in Monsey is about 1500 feet long. Say a quater mile.

The other places with removed rail:

There are about seven grade crossings, each of no more than 200 feet long.

Plus at the washout about 100 ft.

However, there is very little of the track that can be remotely consider passable for trains. Only the section in Monsey that goes under Rt. 59 and the Thruway is clear.

Watch out for Poison Ivy.if you go. Mostly, there are some good size trees growing between the ties. And lots of rubbish, want a mattress, all sizes are there.

All of the track would have to be replaced.

As far as future freight costurmers are concerened, there are no likely sites between Spook Rd and Spring Valley.

  by Ken W2KB
Thanks, Al.

  by thebigc
SecaucusJunction wrote:The signal went up a few years ago... about the time the rumors first started for this line.
That signal is for the busy grade crossing. It's tied into the traffic light.

  by BlockLine_4111
So when did this line segment (Suffern - SV) go into an era of rapid decline ?

I imagine there must have still been a good deal of drillin' (aka local freight customers) during the first 5 years of ConRail.

Maybe the next 5 years (82-87) began a decline with dissegmentation starting in the 90s.

Again I am taking pop guesses can anyone specifically clarify if my guesses are valid.

  by BlockLine_4111
There seems to be a brush covered ROW w/rails in place running perpendicular to NY Throughway/87 at milemarker 25 east of Suffern and west of SV. What line is this ?
  by railtrailbiker
Resting on Bill Elson's living room table is a 2-foot model of a green building with ochre trim that, aside from being pleasing to the eye, serves as a testament to the riverfront community's past.

Its 19th-century counterpart — a train station on Ash Street — is the focus of the 6-month-old Piermont Station Historical Society. The organization was created by the village board to come up with plans to restore and renovate the building, which has been closed since the 1960s.

"We needed some visual stimulation as to what it would look like in the future," Elson said of the model, "because what it looks like now is depressing."

Elson, a village resident for five years and a member of the society, built the model last year, and the society will display it next week at its first public meeting. Members will also update residents on plans for the train station's renovation and restoration, and seek new volunteers and donations.

"As Piermont has evolved in the last 18 to 20 years, there are few symbols of its origins, apart from the buildings on Main Street, but this is a real visual symbol of the small town," Elson said. "Piermont was and the railroad was intrinsic to the development of this area."

In November, the village board informally decided to forgo a controversial plan to move the train station and convert it into a visitors center and museum. The decision came after many residents criticized the proposed move.

The property was the only link missing in the Erie Path — a 4.5-mile walking trail and linear park from Sparkill to Nyack that was created in 1975 from the abandoned railroad line, which was once the longest railroad in the United States.
http://www.thejournalnews.com/apps/pbcs ... 019/NEWS03
  by railtrailbiker
One by one, the vehicles headed up and down South Myrtle Avenue go through the same motions.

First, the gradual increase in speed, then a dramatic slowdown. Brake lights go red, and the vehicles slow to a crawl as they pass over the rough terrain of an old, deteriorating railroad crossing.

Most drivers on a recent morning seemed to know what was in store for them as they approached the crossing near South Myrtle Avenue-Commerce Street intersection, slowly passing over. But quite a few seemed to be new to the crossing — or to have just plain forgotten.

Those drivers were immediately jostled around as their vehicles' shocks went through a rigorous test.

"It's no good," said Joseph Pierre, who lives on South Myrtle, pointing to the crossing. "It needs to be fixed. I go over it every day. It's no good."

After hearing complaints from residents, county Legislator David Fried, D-Spring Valley, is looking to get that crossing and one at West and Commerce streets repaired.

The old freight rail line, which rests adjacent to Beckerle Lumber Supply Co. and about 50 feet from NJ Transit railroad lines, is a segment of the Suffern Industrial Track, also known as the Piermont Branch.
http://www.thejournalnews.com/apps/pbcs ... 60358/1019
  by railtrailbiker
A plan to provide relief for motorists crawling across deteriorating railroad tracks on two busy streets in the village could be ready by the end of the week.

Legislator David Fried, D-Spring Valley, said he spoke with a Norfolk Southern Railway Co. representative Monday regarding the roadway on South Myrtle Avenue and West Street. The road's condition has worsened over the years, causing the tracks to pop out, creating a hazard for drivers. Fried said the official hoped to have a work schedule time frame completed.

Metro-North Railroad owns the property the tracks are on, but repair work and maintenance of the rails are the job of Norfolk Southern. A transfer agreement between Conrail and the Metropolitan Transportation Authority in 1982 gave Norfolk Southern exclusive control of the Piermont Branch.

The old freight rail line, which rests adjacent to Beckerle Lumber Supply Co. and about 50 feet from NJ Transit tracks, is a segment of the Suffern Industrial Track, also known as the Piermont Branch.

Fried said Norfolk Southern workers had made temporary touchups at the site in the past two weeks, pouring blacktop on the most severe portions of track.
http://www.thejournalnews.com/apps/pbcs ... 019/NEWS03
  by railtrailbiker
In his 22 years as manager of Alto Music on Route 59, Mike Siragusa has seen downtown go through many changes.

As the Orthodox Jewish population grew, so did the businesses that cater to them.

And because many people eschew driving for walking, it's not uncommon to see mothers pushing strollers along the heavily congested Route 59 as they go shopping, Siragusa said.

But the roadway lacks sidewalks, which creates a hazard for pedestrians who often have to walk along it and cross it to get to their destination, Siragusa said.

Ramapo officials plan to meet with Metropolitan Transportation Authority officials next month to present plans for a pedestrian walkway on an abandoned rail line that would alleviate some traffic safety concerns. The proposed $900,000 walkway would connect pedestrians to downtown businesses, a medical center and the post office.

The walkway, funded by a grant from the Statewide Transportation Improvement Program, would start at Monsey Glen County Park, cross over the troubled routes 59 and 306 corridor, and end at Robert Pitt Drive. The 3,000-foot-long walkway, which would be paved and have antique lights, would follow the path of the former Piermont Branch line.
http://www.thejournalnews.com/apps/pbcs ... 019/NEWS03

  by onder
The 3,000-foot-long walkway, which would be paved and have antique lights,

ha ha ha. Antique lights! 80 billion candle power halogens or
whatever. These guys crack me up!

The local politico that ensures the line lines dormant
is such a putz.

Let's hear it for suburbia!

  by Dieter
I thought there was a buzz about putting light rail on that line.

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