• #14 Orange Line Cars 1400-1551 (From Red/Orange Procurement discussion)

  • Discussion relating to commuter rail, light rail, and subway operations of the MBTA.
Discussion relating to commuter rail, light rail, and subway operations of the MBTA.

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  by RenegadeMonster
 
Thats very interesting. Also it explains those green line trains sitting in the woods in PA I always wondered about.

I'd be cool, but I would have no place to store a red line or orange line car :P
  by MBTA3247
 
I would've expected the scrap price for a subway car to be quite a bit higher than $800.
  by RenegadeMonster
 
Same, but I bet the price is what the scrap company is willing to pay for them if they have to remove the cars from the T's site and transport them them selves to the scrap yard. Could also take into account of having to take some units aport on to transport.
  by troffey
 
Scrap steel is going for about $200/ton at a scarp yard...figure in the cost of transport or on-site scrapping and a deduction on the per/ton price for all the non-metal parts and you'd be looking at maybe $150/ton? What's the weight of a T subway car?
  by BandA
 
just slip some rubber wheels over the steel ones & add a generator, apply some roofing tar & bondo & you'll be stylin'. Oh, and a steering wheel, lol. Nobody will mess with you going through the Big Dig in a modified Orange Line car!
  by jwhite07
 
Noticed a flatbed truck with a tarped new Orange Line car awaiting unloading behind Wellington Yard yesterday morning; per NETransit there are four expected. One pair of the cars already in testing was sitting on a yard lead south of the carhouse. Could not see where the second pair was.
  by Arlington
 
jwhite07 wrote:Noticed a flatbed truck with a tarped new Orange Line car awaiting unloading behind Wellington Yard yesterday morning; per NETransit there are four expected. One pair of the cars already in testing was sitting on a yard lead south of the carhouse. Could not see where the second pair was.
What do you/we guess: Are these the Chinese-assembled ones or the first that are final-assembled in Springfield?
  by jwhite07
 
Arlington wrote:
jwhite07 wrote:Noticed a flatbed truck with a tarped new Orange Line car awaiting unloading behind Wellington Yard yesterday morning; per NETransit there are four expected. One pair of the cars already in testing was sitting on a yard lead south of the carhouse. Could not see where the second pair was.
What do you/we guess: Are these the Chinese-assembled ones or the first that are final-assembled in Springfield?
The CRRC MA website says first Springfield-produced cars expected to start rolling out in December, so I'm guessing these are imports.
  by orange1234
 
MRY wrote:Does any of the tariff stuff going on now effect the importation of complete cars or parts thereof?
I'm not sure about the recently received pilot cars or the carbody shells, but a large majority of the subassemblies and components are actually products of non-Chinese companies and are manufactured in the US.
  by BandA
 
I think there is sovereign risk, but probably for orders that are receiving feddybucks. This order is paid for by MA taxpayers.
  by R36 Combine Coach
 
BandA wrote:I think there is sovereign risk, but probably for orders that are receiving feddybucks. This order is paid for by MA taxpayers.
100% MassDOT funded, no FTA?
  by chrisf
 
R36 Combine Coach wrote: 100% MassDOT funded, no FTA?
Correct. This is apparently so that the MBTA could insist on them being "built" in Massachusetts.
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