The reason I don't "shadow" a topic, is if I do, it can't be modded, in it's new location. It appears as a post, that can't have a moderator work, in the new forum. If it's moved, without a shadow, it appears as a new post, and the moderator in the "new" forum, has full mod rights on it. We've discussed this before, when topics are moved, and arrive in a format that cannot be modded, in their new locations. I have found this doesn't occur, when you don't leave a shadow. If you guys have some info, relating how to mod a "moved" post, I would enjoy hearing about it. Sometimes a junk thread appears in a forum, and due to it's being "moved", it can't be edited, locked, deleted, etc. Reading through the phpBB info, that Mike forwarded to me as a link, provided no remedy for this, other than moving a post without a shadow. Regards