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 #222256  by Tri-State Tom
 
Don / Ken -

AIR, manually operated gates survived at Belmar station and at the Main St. crossing at Manasquan station for quite awhile as well. My recall on this is admittedly foggy so I'll yield to others with more accurate info.

Regardless, had no idea manual operation survived on sections of the NJCL until the late 70's-early 80's.

BTW, manual gates were unigue for the three-quarter 'up' position as well as for having a single steel drop rod about half-way out the arm to keep the arm from hitting the pavement as the gate was lowered.

 #222270  by RichM
 
Thanks Tom, you brought back the memory of that support bar, made me think of something else... the gates appeared to have something akin to "free weights" for counter balancing, rather than the fixed weights on the automatic gates I saw on the NYC/PC West Shore at that time. Always looked to me that they had some lateral movement on the shaft they were mounted on, like they could be changed easily. I assume this was the case because they were far more sensitive to correct balancing than the motor operated type.
 #900643  by rjgrubin
 
These were the last manned manual gates in North America! The last four manned gates were as follows to my knowledge,automated in this order. Melrose,MA Wyoming ave. Automated 1982?, The two at South Amboy were next to be automated, and the Concord St. Framingham,MA. http://rjgrubin.rrpicturearchives.net/a ... x?id=10013 I have a F&J Safety Gate Catalog showing parts and assembly of the Gatestands on a PDF file for anyone interested.
 #901215  by nayaugpark52
 
I thought the grade crossing in Westville, NJ was manually operated until the early 80s. Anybody know the date it was automated?
 #901482  by red92s
 
According to one of the "Northeast Corridor 1976-2007" videos on youtube South Amboy had manually controlled gates until 1983 and the demise of engine changes there. Not sure how accurate that is, but it says these were the last manual gates in NJ.
 #901528  by rjgrubin
 
Those were the the last two in New Jersey and Framingham,MA were the last manned Manual Gates in the USA...August 20th,1985 was the last day of operation. They are preserved at the RRMNE in Thomaston,CT. All the gate stands are there...and the cranks are in my cellar. I had the privilege to crank the last four in existence.... both at South Amboy, Melrose,MA (wyoming Ave), and Concord st. Framingham,MA...
 #901971  by limejuice
 
The last manned crossings in the country with automatic (motorized) gates were Broad St. and Main St. in Lansdale, PA. These crossings were fully automated in 2008. They were still manned so recently because the crossings of two major thoroughfares (one being a state highway) were in the middle of an interlocking, adjacent to a terminal station. These complicated conditions would have the gates down for long periods of time without someone there to raise them. Until recently, the capital funding to replace the signal equipment here did not exist.
 #901989  by GSC
 
In keeping with what limejuice said, the last sets on the NY&LB were in the middle of active bi-directional trackage. Engine changes in South Amboy had all kinds of rail traffic going back and forth. In the Asbury Park area, the last set of manuals was at Route 33 / Corlies Ave. Just west (south) of there was a crossover and a then-busy freight yard. Always something on the "wrong" side moving back and forth. The Corlies Ave crossing shack was elevated so the operator could see a long distance in both directions. None of the rest of the crossings in that area, although manned, had gates by the 1970s. Those old timers were working out their last days on the railroad, and were a pleasure to talk to about the "old days". Sitting in a crossing shanty on a cold day, with the pot belly roaring hot, listening to stories about railroading in the good old days is something I'll never forget. All of those guys I knew are gone now.
 #902460  by rjgrubin
 
davebdawg wrote:Why did some gates take so long to be switched over in this digital age???
An old State law in Massachusetts..and stubborn selectmen.When they redid the plant and got it down to two tracks eliminating the diamond that was the only way they could do it..They tried to do it in 1969 when they automated Bishop St. the next crossing east.. The New Haven lines still had cow bells at the crossings in the area..they are all gone now too. Old New England Railroading..
 #902555  by Jtgshu
 
Again, as I mentioned earlier in the thread, the private grade Xing at Monmouth Park still has gate watchmen, usually one on either side during the busier summer months and they close (roll) the fence gates across the road, blocking access to the tracks.
 #902709  by GSC
 
Jtgshu wrote:Again, as I mentioned earlier in the thread, the private grade Xing at Monmouth Park still has gate watchmen, usually one on either side during the busier summer months and they close (roll) the fence gates across the road, blocking access to the tracks.
Forgot about that. I remember the four old-style gates that were there.
 #903268  by JLo
 
Stockton Lake Blvd and Rt 71 in Manasquan was a manual crossing until sometime during the 60s. IIRC, after that, it was simply an ungated crossing for a period of time.
 #903385  by steemtrayn
 
A few things I remember about the gates in Red Bank:

The crossing at Monmouth St. had a single red light instead of flashers.

The Monmouth St. gates (6 of them) were controlled by levers. The others were cranked.

Red kerosene lanterns hung from the gates.

There were no toilets. Sanitation facilities consisted of porcelain pans, which

were emptied onto the street after the gateman did his business.
 #903454  by TSTOM
 
steem -

Red kerosene lanterns hung from the gates.

Don't recall the keroseen but do remember the dangling red lanterns....which I don't believe flashed/pulsated on/off when gates were lowered as a couple do nowadays. I think they just lit-up electrically when the gates were activated.