• Pawtuckett/Central Fall train station status.

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Discussion relating to commuter rail, light rail, and subway operations of the MBTA.

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  by braves
 
Has construction begun on building the new Pawtuckett/Central Falls train station.

If so, what year will this train station open.
  by jonnhrr
 
There were plans to build the station and RI applied for a received a TIGER grant.

Latest news I saw was that the project went over budget and is being scaled back

http://www.providencejournal.com/news/2 ... wn-delayed
Rhode Island is slimming down the planned Pawtucket-Central Falls commuter rail station as the estimated cost of the project swelled beyond its $40-million budget.

The changes will likely set the start of work back six months as the R.I. Department of Transportation rebids the project using a new design no longer including two new sets of track. Work is now slated to begin at the end of the year instead of this summer.

Stephen Devine, chief of the DOT’s transit office, said the change was spurred by federal railroad officials concluding that building a new set of tracks for the Pawtucket station off the busy Northeast Corridor main line was not necessary.

“They own the Northeast Corridor and wanted to try to scale down the amount or track-side infrastructure that was going to drive up the cost of the project,” Devine said. “This gives us a great opportunity to make it a much simpler station with less infrastructure.”

Devine said the estimated cost of the original design was nearing the $50-million mark, but getting rid of the siding tracks and associated switches, signals and other systems should keep it within the $40-million budget.
  by eubnesby
 
I can't believe they're going to restrict the NEC to 2 tracks in that area for the foreseeable future, with local trains stopping on the main line...what a disaster. I expect they won't even future proof it, necessitating a complete rebuild in future...
  by nomis
 
You mean like they do at South Attleboro, Mansfield, Sharon, Canton Jct and Rte 128 with those local trains in two track territory.
  by Trinnau
 
The proximity to Providence and South Attleboro along with lower track speeds means it actually makes sense to not waste the money here. The original plan was really just to have short station tracks - nothing promoting an overtake scenario like is done at Attleboro. Lots of pricey infrastructure for zero benefit.

I also don't think it would completely preclude future 3 or 4 track operation in this area, as the same real-estate is required no matter which side of the platforms the track goes on. There is already a 3rd track in this area but it is freight only and is not immediately adjacent to the other two tracks. My guess is one of the platforms will go in the gap between, already setting up a scenario for 3-track operation with that platform accessing two tracks.
  by BandA
 
So, future-proofing the design just involves a longer pedestrian bridge to accommodate additional future track(s), right?
  by eubnesby
 
nomis wrote:You mean like they do at South Attleboro, Mansfield, Sharon, Canton Jct and Rte 128 with those local trains in two track territory.
You must be aware that it has been planned to build passing tracks at all those stations. One step forward, two steps back. Will simply mean more money spent later.
  by Rockingham Racer
 
eubnesby wrote:
nomis wrote:You mean like they do at South Attleboro, Mansfield, Sharon, Canton Jct and Rte 128 with those local trains in two track territory.
You must be aware that it has been planned to build passing tracks at all those stations. One step forward, two steps back. Will simply mean more money spent later.
No, I wasn't. Could you point me to the document that outlines those plans, if possible? TIA!

There used to be a plan posted [couldn't find it just now] that had some triple tracking, but don't have a recollection about by-pass tracks [Kingston, excepted].
  by Arlington
 
Construction was supposed to start in "Fall 2018" but they said in March/May that they needed to reduce the station to 1 platform to save money.
1) Any additional details on how the VE is going?
2) Presumably they're leaving room for the 2-platform, 2-track station (1 freight bypass on North side) that they envisioned straddling the existing 2-track Amtrak-owned NEC at this point. (a total of 5 tracks: Freight-Platform-Commuter-Amtrak-Amtrak-Commuter-Platform-(Ramps)
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  by Arlington
 
BandA wrote:So the historic station will most likely be torn down?
Seems like it'll eventually have to be demolished, but that it is hard to say which will get resolved first, the physical mess or the legal mess.

Last I heard (2014) they couldn't even locate the entity that had supposedly bought the old station at a tax sale. It does not seem to have an owner who cares, and it hasn't been landmarked (per Wikipedia) because nobody could vouch for its structural integrity. Nobody wanted to spend the $ to ADA it, an the geometry beneath the station has been miserable since electrification.