• Siemens Single Level Cars for CA/IL/Midwest

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  by gokeefe
 
Looks at those windows!

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  by gokeefe
 
And for the paint people I think this is now technically "Phase VI" ... So off to the races on a decade long discussion of that one ...

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  by Gilbert B Norman
 
Which agency is getting those cars?

Other thought; is that photo even authentic?
  by Backshophoss
 
Is that set of cars headed to pueblo for testing??
The "tri-color" set could be the Mid-west prototypes.
The Caltrains set was shot at Emeryville yard.
  by flexliner
 
Ok could someone explain why the cars nearest the engines on both ends have doors both vestibules with the one closest to the engine seemingly high and the other end long with folding steps. While the center cars have only one long door with the other vestibule sealed off.
What different car types are there.


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  by Gilbert B Norman
 
OK; interesting to learn that some of the Siemens cars will be liveried in "Phase Retro". Since there are three - CA, IL, MI - state level agencies that have ordered these cars (and msybe a fourth- MO), I’m wondering which ones wanted that livery.

But I think rail passenger service will be the better for having those cars in service, if my personal experiences with their "siblings" - Brightline and Overseas (AT, DE) are any measurement.
  by NH2060
 
That is the ugliest Amtrak train I have ever seen. Seriously, who thought that large red stripe on the bottom was a good idea? The Midwest livery as used on the Chargers was perfect. And the renderings of the IDOT coaches looked very sharp.

And as stupid as the Caltrans cars look with that "action yellow" and multi-tone blue stripe at the bottom (once again the renderings were better than the finished product) at least it "looks California-ish" much like how the Brightline cars have that "Florida look" to them.

I sure hope the regular Amtrak, WSDOT and VIA Rail cars will look better :P
  by west point
 
We may think about the paint jobs are to reduce the possibility of someone running into the side of the train. Has anyone noticed if the paint is reflective at night ?
  by R36 Combine Coach
 
Matt Johnson wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:48 pm There are cab cars on order but they don't look like NJ Transit Comet cabs or whatever...they have streamlined, crash protection designed cabs.
Newer "safety cabs", seen first on Metrolink's Rotem fleet and on GO Transit's new BBD fleet starting in 2015.
  by ST Saint
 
A little lunch time boredom in PowerPoint. It looks like the liveries will still mismatch some since the graphics flare up on the rear of the Charger. I just don't understand it.. Does anyone think they'll adapt the Chargers by removing the fins on the Cali units and matching the striping?

Regardless, still very excited to see new cars rolling out. Hopefully for Amtrak proper (and maybe Cascades?) they will have a livery that makes sense for existing chargers or whatever the ALC-42 will look like.
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  by Pensyfan19
 
ST Saint wrote: Mon Aug 03, 2020 2:14 pm A little lunch time boredom in PowerPoint. It looks like the liveries will still mismatch some since the graphics flare up on the rear of the Charger. I just don't understand it.. Does anyone think they'll adapt the Chargers by removing the fins on the Cali units and matching the striping?

Regardless, still very excited to see new cars rolling out. Hopefully for Amtrak proper (and maybe Cascades?) they will have a livery that makes sense for existing chargers or whatever the ALC-42 will look like.
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The livery on the back of the charger doesn't match up with the rest of the coaches. Same thing applies for the CALDOT coaches. In terms of aesthetically pleasing locomotive and coach designs, either the Chargers or the Venture coaches need to go through a major repainting process in order for both of the ends to match up correctly.

This should emphasize my point, when comparing what we have now to the original concept art for these coaches.

https://slideplayer.com/slide/13968865/ (skip to slide 10)
  by gokeefe
 
Any interior shots out there? I can't recall seeing a single one ...

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  by flexliner
 
slide 11 describes the car types I asked about
by why a different number of doors for different car types?
why not standard 4 doors per car except cab cars?
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