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 #1552344  by rohr turbo
 
PG&E exited Chap 11 bankruptcy July 1 of this year. Not to say they are the model of a healthy utility, but I think the liability for fires, etc has been settled.

I'm sure if full Chap 7 is ever contemplated, the state will take over as there are many more important electricity users in N. Calif than Caltrain (which can always pull out old diesels if nec.)
 #1553384  by Pensyfan19
 
Great photos! Nice to see things are clearing up in CA. :-)
 #1553404  by RRspatch
 
It will be interesting to see how soon the two "catenary alignment - voltage testers" ..... er, ex Amtrak AEM7's, are unwrapped and sent out on the line. I wonder if they'll get repainted into the Caltrains scheme?
 #1553407  by rohr turbo
 
That will be cool to see AEM-7s on the line. But I doubt they'll repaint them. They still haven't repainted all the ex-Metrolink Bombardier coaches that have been in daily service for 4 or 5 years now.
 #1553639  by rohr turbo
 
west point wrote: Mon Sep 28, 2020 1:01 am Notice how simpler the whole electrical wiring is compared to the NEC.
That's really true westpoint. I have been thinking about the reasons why. Here are my thoughts:

1. Caltrain can eliminate the very high voltage, multi-line, very tall power poles over the right of way that are in the old Pennsy territory. I assume this is because old NEC is still captive 25 Hz system with few converters, while Caltrain can run multiple, simple 60 Hz substations frequently along the line.

2. green masts are nice camouflage.

3. general simplification/modernization over 80+ years.

4. two tracks vs. 3~4

I still marvel that modern catenary uses those tensioning weights/pulleys that look so 19th century!
 #1553699  by jwhite07
 
Other than the painted green poles versus bare galvanized steel ones, that photo is representative of how the electrification installation looks on the NEC between New Haven, CT and Boston, MA. I'm sure you'll see catenary bridges or other heavier or taller structures as necessary in certain areas such as where there are more than two tracks, but that design is pretty typical for simple double track territory. I have also seen videos indicating some of the Caltrain route is equipped with much taller catenary poles on only one side of the right of way, with span arms extending over both tracks. Again, there are similar such installations along the NEC east of New Haven, where right of way width is limited by topography (hillsides, rock cuts, shorelines, etc) or even buildings closely abutting the right of way.
 #1553797  by Backshophoss
 
The NEC east of New Haven was the first "new build cat" in ages,and copied some of the light rail cat poles and turned to a "heavy look" style poles on the corridor
 #1554658  by BandA
 
Are those constant-tension catenary? I don't see any weights or pulleys. It does look like a trolley (LRV) line! The NEC corridor probably has greater temperature variation as well as ice & snow than this line faces.

Someone mentioned catenary "short testing". Would be neat if electric locomotives had laser or other telemetry to check catenary alignment automatically and give out early warnings.
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