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 #1531237  by RGlueck
 
Preservation is a tight rope. From what I've read in your responses, preserving perhaps a portion of the original as a display piece, show the original assembly techniques might be warranted. In that manner, original workmanship is retained and the bulk of the severely damaged original could be "harvested" as scrap. Nobody wants to see it go, since it is no longer an off the shelf item. On the other hand, it becomes an attractive nuisance if left around to collect more water and attract varmints.
I need to reflect a bit, on how whole lines of steam locomotives were slaughtered wholesale, during the fifties and sixties. Most remained serviceable, yet the investment in them was long past. The only thing to do was store them under cover (Sweden did) or leave them open for deterioration (US did).
The decision is a long way off, so for some time to come, I hope you'll be able to see the original and the new replacement, side by side after delivery.
Please keep your comments coming.
 #1531251  by gokeefe
 
Use boat shrink wrap and store it on blocks. Preserves for future reference (if ever necessary), avoids requirements for abatement, prevents corrosion by keeping water out, saves everybody the headache (and heartache) of scrapping. Give it new shrink wrap as needed every 3 or so years. Keeps vandals away and shrink wrap would immediately show evidence of entry or destruction.

You don't have to decide now. And this minimizes the expense and efforts associated with parts no longer in use.

Keep up the great work!
 #1532251  by RGlueck
 
Located in Washington Jct. Yard, on the Downeast Scenic Railroad. Maine Central 470 is dry, indoors, being worked on all year long.
Boiler is being stripped by UMO engineering students. Tubes and flues may be pulled this year. Valve gear has just been removed for cleaning and examination. Cab is being rebuilt as a winter indoor project, though it's not a huge priority right now. Tender tank has been ordered and should be completed by April.
Immediate goals include raising $50K for installation of a service pit and drop table, and $30K to have cylinders and valve cages resurfaced and pistons resurfaced.
Your membership and donations go directly into this project and nowhere else.

No, the window you see are in storage, and not for the cab!
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 #1533045  by RGlueck
 
Two historical documents have been placed on the New England Steam website.  One is a PDF of 1974 engine houses and yard service tracks, dated for 1974.  The second is a 1937 set of guidelines for re-railing B&M #6000, aka "The Flying Yankee".  These should be of interest to modelers and historian alike. 
  https://www.newenglandsteam.org/resources
 #1537618  by RGlueck
 
While the NESCO shop has been closed to workers for two weeks and likely for at least another week, you will be pleased to know, Millinocket Metal and Fabrication is continuing to construct the new 470 tender within the confines of their building. Furthermore, the new sides for the 470 cab have been completed in another commercial shop and will be delivered in another few days.
In the meantime, check Facebook and our website for updates, or better still send in your membership and get the newsletters as they are released. Thanks for your patience while we collectively get this viral plague understood and under control.
 #1542716  by RGlueck
 
470's new tender tank will be delivered to Washington Jct. NESCO shop by truck, May 22nd. Please view it from outside the fence and do not come into the Downeast Scenic Railroad's yard. The new tank will be placed directly behind the old tank for several weeks, before being moved indoors for riveting.
 #1542721  by gokeefe
 
Who would have ever imagined 10 years ago that the phrase, "new tender tank delivered" was going to happen? We all had hopes and dreams but to see them actually happenning is another matter entirely.

Job well done NESCO. Keep up the great work!
 #1543664  by RGlueck
 
Okay, if you're a Maine Central fan, if you've wondered why somebody didn't do something about Maine Central 470 while it stood in the park, if you love railroading history in New England, if you are excited about railroad restoration, and you're still not a member or donor to New England Steam Corporation, why?

Donors are as much of the work force as knuckle skinners.
Members are the backbone and life blood of the 470 restoration.
470 is in parts, but most parts are getting regular attention and some are already restored to function.
All funding goes into the locomotive restoration and nowhere else.
Donations and memberships are tax deductible.

Please go to www.newenglandsteam.org and become a member or renew your membership. Find us on Facebook. Make a donation to "git 'er done". It's happening now, but your funding will shorten the calendar until you see her back in steam.

PRESERVATION, EDUCATION, HERITAGE TOURISM. If not us, then who?
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 #1556052  by RGlueck
 
Memberships are due now!
If you aren't a member of New England Steam and love Maine Central history, why aren't you? Single memberships start at $30 annually ($25 seniors). Your personal support and memberships drive the 470 restoration, plus you get monthly newsletter updates and our journal, "The Booster". Presently, 470 is being taken apart for cleaning, and inspection, with plenty of work on the boiler and best, the new tender is being prepped for a heavy winter work session.
Use your CC to join at www.newenglandsteam.org, or postal mail your membership application with your email address to NESCO, P.O.Box 302, Winterport, Maine 04496 . Support one of the most motivated steam locomotive restorations in America, and get involved with membership today!
 #1556114  by RGlueck
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KjhUIi ... e=youtu.be

Here's a 28 minute overview tour of the shop, shot by Mr Paul Lodge this past May. The tour is conducted by CMO Leverett Fernald, and interviews with some great
members of our regular restoration crew. Summary by NESCO President Dick Glueck at the close.
For you folks unable to travel to Hancock, Maine this year, here's a peek at what you are actively engaged in. Enjoy!
 #1576300  by RGlueck
 
Touch A Train 2021 will be held at Washington Junction Yard, September 11, 2021, from 9AM - 12:30PM, with a special fare 1:30 train ride on the Downeast Scenic Railroad.
 #1579412  by RGlueck
 
Touch A Train has been cancelled due to the rise in Delta Variant Covid cases in eastern Maine. TaT is a fun, family event, meant to bring enjoyment to everyone. NESCO does not wish to inadvertently put anyone at risk at this time.
Thank you for understanding.
 #1579424  by MEC407
 
"Safety First" is a good motto for railroads and for many other aspects of life.
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