I’m guessing Siemens, Stadler, Alstom, and CRRC put in bids. Possibly Hitachi?
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John_Perkowski wrote: ↑Wed Nov 27, 2019 2:13 am No matter who is announced, the award will be issued with a hold work order until the inevitable protests clear the General Accounting Office. That may take a while.I don't know. While the language of the contracting process is similar to the federal process (RFP, SOW, etc.), I imagine this is one time where Amtrak can play the "we're a private company" game.
mtuandrew wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2019 1:06 pmI don’t know that you can make that assertion, the Milwaukee was not known for good decisions and was perpetually broke. The South Milwaukee shops also horrendously botched the Bipolar rebuild leading to early retirement and scrapping.electricron wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2019 9:41 amThat case study should start with the V-I procurement. All Viewliners have been built to a design Amtrak owns from initial design to manufacturing floor changes. Every single one is therefore a custom build. Custom build is never cheaper than off the shelf.It’s a procurement model that worked well for the N&W and the Milwaukee, which had their own manufacturing facilities.
Tadman wrote:I don’t know that you can make that assertion, the Milwaukee was not known for good decisions and was perpetually broke. The South Milwaukee shops also horrendously botched the Bipolar rebuild leading to early retirement and scrapping.Mr. Dunville, I have to agree.
frequentflyer wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2019 11:12 am Anderson stated at a recent congressional committee that Amtrak was leaning toward EMU/DMU as Amfleet replacements for the NEC.That makes so little sense when you consider Amtrak's stated desire to avoid fixed consists, its varied routes from North Carolina to western Pennsylvania to Vermont & Maine which use the NEC as a hub, and its practice of adjusting consists to meet demand (particularly around the Thanksgiving holiday and other peak travel periods).
Matt Johnson wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2019 11:53 amEvery commuter agency between DC and Boston will be in line to snap up 5-7 year old Sprinters by the time the first EMU/DMU is delivered.frequentflyer wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2019 11:12 am Anderson stated at a recent congressional committee that Amtrak was leaning toward EMU/DMU as Amfleet replacements for the NEC.That makes so little sense when you consider Amtrak's stated desire to avoid fixed consists, its varied routes from North Carolina to western Pennsylvania to Vermont & Maine which use the NEC as a hub, and its practice of adjusting consists to meet demand (particularly around the Thanksgiving holiday and other peak travel periods).
Not to mention Amtrak's recently acquired fleet of ACS-64 electric locomotives!
frequentflyer wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2019 11:12 am Anderson stated at a recent congressional committee that Amtrak was leaning toward EMU/DMU as Amfleet replacements for the NEC.Is that Amtrak’s preference or Anderson’s preference? I suspect it’s the latter - he’s used to managing fixed-consist variable-frequency service (need more capacity? Schedule another Airbus half an hour later), while Amtrak and American railroads generally have historically offered fixed-frequency variable-consist service due to timetable constraints.
Matt Johnson wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2019 11:53 amMU stands for multiple units, not multiple cars.frequentflyer wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2019 11:12 am Anderson stated at a recent congressional committee that Amtrak was leaning toward EMU/DMU as Amfleet replacements for the NEC.That makes so little sense when you consider Amtrak's stated desire to avoid fixed consists, its varied routes from North Carolina to western Pennsylvania to Vermont & Maine which use the NEC as a hub, and its practice of adjusting consists to meet demand (particularly around the Thanksgiving holiday and other peak travel periods).
Not to mention Amtrak's recently acquired fleet of ACS-64 electric locomotives!
mtuandrew wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2019 12:58 pmhttps://youtu.be/rsqf2pN2lYE?t=8286frequentflyer wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2019 11:12 am Anderson stated at a recent congressional committee that Amtrak was leaning toward EMU/DMU as Amfleet replacements for the NEC.Is that Amtrak’s preference or Anderson’s preference? I suspect it’s the latter - he’s used to managing fixed-consist variable-frequency service (need more capacity? Schedule another Airbus half an hour later), while Amtrak and American railroads generally have historically offered fixed-frequency variable-consist service due to timetable constraints.