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andegold wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 6:57 pmWhen Penn Station was completed in 1910, it was situated in what was then known as "the Tenderloin" (a notorious red-light district), and had no subway access. It seems ironic that Penn Station has made "dodgy" the same area that it had helped to "prime."SouthernRailway wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 5:27 pm NY Penn StationIf there is anything dodgy about the neighborhood around Penn Station it is due to Penn Station. The halls and elevators may need renovation but the location itself is absolutely prime. On site access to two out of five north south subway lines and one block from two of the remaining three. Bus service to Hudson Yards. Walking distance to the theater district. Other than the mythical connection to Grand Central there really isn't anything you could do to make the physical location better. Just clean it up the way it was ten years ago before the idiot in Gracie Mansion came to town.
(Dumpy station in a semi-dodgy area)
rcthompson04 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 5:54 am Ardmore PA is not the best location for the “eastern” Keystone Service stop. It is not so much a problem with Ardmore as much as Villanova/ Radnor would serve a broader area. Hopefully the station is moved when the Villa and Nova interlockings replace Bryn Mawr over the next decade.Seeing as they’re dropping millions into rebuilding Ardmore, I doubt it.
Tadman wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 8:18 am Savannah perhaps? It's not conducive to the tourist trade, perhaps 30 minutes away from downtown. I'm not sure if there is mainline connection to the railroad museum but I bet the museum would work something out cheap for the carrier to at least terminate the Palmetto downtown.Re: Savannah, the Georgia State Railroad Museum is no longer connected to outside rail. It’s about 3/4 mile and a missing bridge away. If reconnected it would be a great terminus though, for a RDC or trolley shuttle meeting the Silvers and Palmetto if nothing else.
Regarding Detroit, the location is not bad (fast growing area after decades of utter blight and danger) but the station is a total dive.
Tadman wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 8:18 am Regarding South Bend, the downtown idea may be less feasible because CN/GTW and NS share trackage there for a few miles. The best idea would probably be to close Elkhart and South Bend and open a central station in Mishawaka, half way between the two. The hospital downtown just closed and the area is ripe for redevelopment. And its a very safe and vibrant downtown.Consider the fact that Amtrak should be investing in getting stations closer to downtowns of urban areas so people don't have to drive, closing Elkhart and South Bend and forcing drivers to go to Mishawaka would be a mistake.
SouthernRailway wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 5:27 pm NY Penn StationThis is just trolling, right? If not, please list all of the alternative station sites in midtown.
(Dumpy station in a semi-dodgy area)
mtuandrew wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 9:33 amLot of effort and money for a single train. The reason that Charleston and Savannah stations are where they are is that the operational convenience of avoiding stub end stations off the mainline is just too great. Downtown stations are ideal, except when downtown is cul de sac. Establish Thruway stops in downtown Charleston and Savannah and run nonstop connecting buses to the stations.Tadman wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 8:18 am Savannah perhaps? It's not conducive to the tourist trade, perhaps 30 minutes away from downtown. I'm not sure if there is mainline connection to the railroad museum but I bet the museum would work something out cheap for the carrier to at least terminate the Palmetto downtown.Re: Savannah, the Georgia State Railroad Museum is no longer connected to outside rail. It’s about 3/4 mile and a missing bridge away. Would be a great terminus though, for a rail shuttle meeting the Silvers and Palmetto if nothing else.
Station Aficionado wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 11:37 amGrand Central for as many routes as possible (eg, northbound trains to/through Albany).SouthernRailway wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 5:27 pm NY Penn StationThis is just trolling, right? If not, please list all of the alternative station sites in midtown.
(Dumpy station in a semi-dodgy area)
Bob Roberts wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 3:30 pm As an out of towner I'll add Richmond Staples Mill to the list as well. I know it offers parking and is convenient for folks in the North burbs but that location has discouraged me from visiting Richmond for the past 20 years -- it was always just too much of a pain to get from the trains (coming from NC) to downtown for me to ever bother stopping. Fixing the Southern approach to RMS will fix this problem and I suspect their new BRT service may get me to visit before then.Positives for Staples Mill is the parking, ability to handle checked baggage, ability to store trains over night, and multiple tracks and platforms including through tracks for freights to bypass the station. I think there's 5 tracks through the station (1 advance, 2 (freight main), 3 (main/platform), 4 (platform), 5 (stub?)). It's not uncommon for two Amtraks to be in the station at once. The AutoTrain does not stop, but can use the through tracks when other trains are in the station.
SouthernRailway wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:02 pm 51st Street would be wonderful. Even some below-ground platforms there for Amtrak, without a station house, would be a big improvement.It would never happen now. When I'm talking back in the day, this is 1937. This had a crapton of extra proposals attached.
NYP and its neighborhood make a terrible impression.