• Septa push pull overview

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Discussion relating to Southeastern Pennsylvania Transportation Authority (Philadelphia Metro Area). Official web site can be found here: www.septa.com. Also including discussion related to the PATCO Speedline rapid transit operated by Delaware River Port Authority. Official web site can be found here: http://www.ridepatco.org/.

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  by Silverliner II
 
rcthompson04 wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:19 pm There are some interesting changes to the August 5 schedules. Is the all day set back in the rotation along with the MARC cars?
From what I've heard from a friend who has heard part of the story, everything goes back to the way it was prior to the Southwest Connection work, with the following changes:
- Elwyn loses its push-pull set in the AM; it goes to Trenton now as 1703/9728.
- No word on use of the MARC cars or return of the all-day set.
We will see come Monday morning....
  by MACTRAXX
 
CNJ: Which push-pull equipment set goes someplace north of Jenkintown in the morning and then returns south
during the afternoon for the PM rush hour? In my travels I spotted this train twice at JKT in one day - where do
they store this set for the day? I remember the Jenkintown Layoff was one place - but not this time...MACTRAXX
  by Silverliner II
 
MACTRAXX wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 11:26 am CNJ: Which push-pull equipment set goes someplace north of Jenkintown in the morning and then returns south
during the afternoon for the PM rush hour? In my travels I spotted this train twice at JKT in one day - where do
they store this set for the day? I remember the Jenkintown Layoff was one place - but not this time...MACTRAXX
9526/9561, the Great Valley Flyer. Spends the day parked in the Glenside Layoff due to the platform demolition ongoing along the "0" Track at Fern Rock.
  by glennk419
 
There was an afternoon Warminster run that returned through Jenkintown around 5:35. Not sure about the morning train.
  by rcthompson04
 
glennk419 wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 12:20 pm There was an afternoon Warminster run that returned through Jenkintown around 5:35. Not sure about the morning train.
The "All Day" Push Pull set runs from Warminster to Center City to Thorndale as 4571 passing Jenkintown around that time.
  by Silverliner II
 
rcthompson04 wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 1:14 pm
glennk419 wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 12:20 pm There was an afternoon Warminster run that returned through Jenkintown around 5:35. Not sure about the morning train.
The "All Day" Push Pull set runs from Warminster to Center City to Thorndale as 4571 passing Jenkintown around that time.
The "all day" push pull set has been operating with MU's for the past two weeks due to some of it's scheduled runs being sliced apart by the Southwest Corridor project.
This afternoon, I was out for the PM rush and noted push-pulls on 9553 (one car short), 9745, 6374, 6378 (in Powelton ready to roll), 9561, 9563 (with a loco on both ends, the rear unit dead in tow), and 1565. Those are all the scheduled PM assignments for the past two weeks, and it looks like they all finished up the two weeks running where the should have been. Seven sets of equipment, 41 cars operating, leaving only 3 spares at Frazer, since 2407 is down for its turn at the interior rehab and exterior re-striping.

By the way, take note of recently rehabbed cab car 2405. They neglected to apply the SEPTA logos to the right side of the car after re-striping.
  by Silverliner II
 
Based on observations by myself and others today, here are the push-pull runs for the current schedule (August 5th). Seven sets of equipment are required (six 6-car sets, and I think one 5-car set, plus 3 spare cars and 1 cab car out for interior rehab (2407). MARC cars on the property are not in service at this time. There is no all-day push-pull set. Deadheads are not included.

AM Peak
Wilmington-Newark
1295/9212

West Trenton
6321
6325

Paoli-Thorndale
1502 (to 1703)
9524
9526

Trenton
1703/9728
9724


PM Peak
Wilmington-Newark
9251/9254

West Trenton
6374
6378

Paoli-Thorndale
9553
9651
1565

Trenton
9745
  by rcthompson04
 
Any word on when the MARC cars will enter service?
  by Silverliner II
 
rcthompson04 wrote: Mon Aug 19, 2019 7:24 am Any word on when the MARC cars will enter service?
None that I'm aware of...
  by boomer
 
rcthompson04 wrote: Mon Aug 19, 2019 7:24 am Any word on when the MARC cars will enter service?
Unofficially, next week. Most likely a couple/few weeks. No concrete dates from people I have spoken to.
  by rcthompson04
 
boomer wrote: Wed Aug 21, 2019 3:55 pm
rcthompson04 wrote: Mon Aug 19, 2019 7:24 am Any word on when the MARC cars will enter service?
Unofficially, next week. Most likely a couple/few weeks. No concrete dates from people I have spoken to.
I am curious if they will be used for rush hour runs or to bring back the "all day" push pull set.
  by CNJGeep
 
One round trip in the peak on the Neshaminy Line.

Also, unrelated, but for those of you playing at home, 2407 has been outshopped, which means 4/10 control cars have been "overhauled."
  by mcgrath618
 
Will the MARC cars be repainted or will they keep their blue and orange?
  by Silverliner II
 
CNJGeep wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:12 am One round trip in the peak on the Neshaminy Line.

Also, unrelated, but for those of you playing at home, 2407 has been outshopped, which means 4/10 control cars have been "overhauled."
Hopefully all the logos got properly applied on 2407 (2405 is missing both right-side logos, only has striping).
Related to the unrelated, 2410 has gone into the shop for its turn at the interior makeover.
mcgrath618 wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2019 2:05 pm Will the MARC cars be repainted or will they keep their blue and orange?
No, they're only being leased, so they will remain as is.
  by MACTRAXX
 
mcgrath618 wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2019 2:05 pm Will the MARC cars be repainted or will they keep their blue and orange?
MCG: The MARC cars are stainless steel with blue and orange decal sheet-type striping - there is not one
speck of paint on any of these cars. This is a pet peeve I have with the rail enthusiast community...
The words "Color Scheme" more accurately describes the colors used on any given rail equipment...

I thought the same thing when the LIRR leased MARC cars back during the Summer of 2017 and that they
would possibly change the color scheme to match the C3 cars but since they were under lease and were
going to be returned they ran as is - their blue and orange colors looked better then the NYS blue and
yellow used on the C3 cab cars and DM/DE30 locomotives. Two DE30s were modified to run with the MARC
cars and were in regular use all summer on their Port Jefferson Branch runs...MACTRAXX
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