Extend the dinky into west windsor. Have a park and ride across from the mall on southfield road. This would be perfect 2nd station for parking and more riders Possibly extend it as far as exit 8.
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Since the Arrow III replacements might take longer than planned, it might not be too late for NJT to change its mind and just stick with a single level MU that would enable the Dinky to continue to operate if they can't get a multilevel MU that would enable one to two cars to operate on the Dinky, as well as three cars for the Gladstone Branch and the Summit locals.
Steampowered wrote:Extend the dinky into west windsor. Have a park and ride across from the mall on southfield road. This would be perfect 2nd station for parking and more riders Possibly extend it as far as exit 8.Extend it?? They just cut it back. PU will never stand for it.
Why do we drive on parkways and park in driveways?
kilroy wrote:Wrong way. He's referring to east of Princeton Junction through to Hightstown.Steampowered wrote:Extend the dinky into west windsor. Have a park and ride across from the mall on southfield road. This would be perfect 2nd station for parking and more riders Possibly extend it as far as exit 8.Extend it?? They just cut it back. PU will never stand for it.
That said, no way is that happening. There are NIMBYs everywhere in West Windsor/East Windsor/Hightstown. Not to mention you'd have to find a ROW which would get super expensive.
I didn't get into teaching for the promotions or the pension plans or so I could get to the golf course by 3:45. I did it because I wanted to help you kids. I'd forgotten that, till today. -- Principal Peter Prickly.
So will the Dinky get double decker self propelled cars now that NJT has ordered them? Or is trackless trolley still possible as the TMA promotes?
The MLV III power cars will not be cabs - so they will have to run three cars minimum. It is possible they will do this, leaving one or two of the cars closed. Also possible, they might run one or two coaches and an older diesel - no electric requirement.
A YouTube commenter claimed their NJT police friend told them a small fleet of Arrows (12) would be kept around - I don't consider this a reliable source, but this is another possible option to continue operating.
A YouTube commenter claimed their NJT police friend told them a small fleet of Arrows (12) would be kept around - I don't consider this a reliable source, but this is another possible option to continue operating.
A three car Multilevel MU set would definately cover the Dinky, assuming that it's not cut. I'm sure that on certain days like weekend days, at least one of the cars will be closed off. The Dinky still sees healthy ridership though.
I don't think a diesel locomotive will operate on the Dinky because of something with the bridge over the Delaware & Raritan Canal. The right of way is meant for MUs anyway. If NJT can keep a few Arrow IIIs that are in good enough shape to continue operating for longer, than that would be good. While many Arrow IIIs are in poor shape, there are probably multiple ones that still ride quite well.
I don't think a diesel locomotive will operate on the Dinky because of something with the bridge over the Delaware & Raritan Canal. The right of way is meant for MUs anyway. If NJT can keep a few Arrow IIIs that are in good enough shape to continue operating for longer, than that would be good. While many Arrow IIIs are in poor shape, there are probably multiple ones that still ride quite well.
Two cars make up a Dinky. One double decker provides the same approximately number of seats. It would be wasteful to have 3 double deckers to form one Dinky train. But Princeton will demand new trains that other lines will receive. What to do?
njt/mnrrbuff wrote:A three car Multilevel MU set would definately cover the Dinky, assuming that it's not cut. I'm sure that on certain days like weekend days, at least one of the cars will be closed off. The Dinky still sees healthy ridership though.They run with only one of the two Arrows open except during the University's Reunions (one week per year).
I don't think a diesel locomotive will operate on the Dinky because of something with the bridge over the Delaware & Raritan Canal. The right of way is meant for MUs anyway. If NJT can keep a few Arrow IIIs that are in good enough shape to continue operating for longer, than that would be good. While many Arrow IIIs are in poor shape, there are probably multiple ones that still ride quite well.
Who knows, maybe the folks who were saying that LRV operation is loony will finally realize that it's not a bad alternative at all.
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lensovet wrote:Who knows, maybe the folks who were saying that LRV operation is loony will finally realize that it's not a bad alternative at all.I quite agree. Question - has an active heavy rail passenger service ever been converted to light rail passenger service anywhere in the USofA? I think passengers would not care if the Dinky switched to light rail, especially since the ride is only a few minutes. But will those of us who favor heavy rail have a problem with converting the Dinky to light rail??
The Northern Branch extension of the HBLR is exactly that.
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lensovet, pateljones asked about active passenger. What was the active passenger service that HBLR replaced?
I agree that if the Dinky were converted to light rail operation, that wouldn't be a bad idea at all. If there is a way for it to get extended into Downtown Princeton, that would be good. If the Princeton Branch were to ever turn into a light rail route, it might not be a bad idea to build a station at Rt. 1 where you could connect to multiple buses.
Two locations in Boston have had such conversion. In 1929, two Old Colony Railroad branches were converted to a heavy rail extension and a streetcar feeder line (now the Ashmont Branch and Ashmont-Mattapan Line). In 1959, the Boston & Albany Railroad Highland Branch was converted to a streetcar line (now the Green Line "D" Branch).
