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rrfoose wrote:Scot, mind if I borrow that logo and slap it on the side of a train to see what it looks like?
lvrr325 wrote:Remember that a lot of PC people are who ran Conrail, too. I would expect no real major differences in the modern motive power roster.Very true. I Could see some C44-9W's, C40-8's, C40-8W's, B40-8W's, and ES44DC's in the roster.
What I see is a PC noodle with "Quality" in the same font, below.... which aught to be good for some laughs. Unless they could figure out a way to add a Q to the noodle.
scottychaos wrote:WOW!lvrr325 wrote: What I see is a PC noodle with "Quality" in the same font, below.... which aught to be good for some laughs. Unless they could figure out a way to add a Q to the noodle.
Scot
Great logo! I love it.ecouter wrote:These new PC units -- do they have green cab interiors as did the original ones (holdover from NYC spec)? Just wondering.Yeah. A light seafoam green would be standard on all units.
ecouter wrote:I don't know, but I was kind of thinking that since the PC management team was smart enough to keep that company going in the face of overwhelming odds, that they would have also been smart enough to reject the whole "quality image as a marketing tool" boondoggle.By this point, the same circumstances that made Conrail profitable would have made PC profitable (also, they would have divested themselves of their non-rail assets, making them flush with cash), and PC would have been private, so it would have had higher demands. Being that it sold its non-rail assets, it was able to retire the debt from its government funded repairs.But then, maybe that's just me.
I'm also wondering how they managed to avoid being snapped up by a cash rich Norfolk Southern in the 1980s. Of course, such a merger would have made for super cheap paint overs, huh?
Conrail(which is similar to this "alternate" Penn Central) was worth over 7 billion when NS was going to purchase it for only 1 BILLION! (Talk about a discount!) Adjusted for inflation, Penn Central would be worth alot! (Man, I never thought I'd say that) I might slightly "slant" the box, so it aligns with the PC font. Also, I agree with the second post, regarding "modern" updates. You must have refelctive striping on the sides and ends of the loco. It's the law. Also, you might want to pool some oil on the catwalks, add liberal amounts of rust and grime, and have parts falling off the loco too........ heheheGOLDEN-ARM wrote:You must have refelctive striping on the sides and ends of the loco. It's the law. Also, you might want to pool some oil on the catwalks, add liberal amounts of rust and grime, and have parts falling off the loco too........Sorry GOLDEN-ARM, but those days on Penn Central are a thing of the past!
The US government, afraid of creating a "socialist" railroad (CR), decided to give the cash that would have been for Conrail to Penn Central, Reading, and the Delaware & Hudson. The CNJ, LHR, EL, and Ann Arbor were chopped up and sold to a variety of railroads. (Chessie, N&W, B&M, D&H). Penn Central was allowed to aggressively tear up branches, redundant main lines, and merge its subsidiaries into itself. To retire the debt it had incurred over the years, all the torn up lines were sold as scrap, along with older equipment. Penn Central began to upgrade its fleet to include SD40-2's,GP38-2's,GP40-2's,C30-7's,C36-7's,B23-7's, and SD50's by the early 1980's. Bi-Directional running was also introduced. Trains going Eastbound from Chicago to New York(for Example) were routed on an all NYC route. But trains going Westbound used an LV-NYC-Canada Southern-NYC routing. The water level route east of Rochester was primarily used for eastbound traffic, with all westbound traffic being routed on the LV to Rochester, where it would be diverted onto the water level route. (Penn Central poured millions into making sure that it wouldn't have congestion problems like it had in the past!) By the mid 1980's, after ten years of hard work, and the selling off of its nonrail assets, Penn Central was a lean and profitable railroad. Finally, it could live up to the promises of 20 years ago and make money. Penn Central and Norfolk Southern began to use roadrailers for long haul runs, and convinced shippers to change from regular trailers to roadrailers. Penn Central even developed a special chassis to convert ordinary trailers to roadrailers. But doublestacks would be what really took off on Penn Central. Where the flexivans once rolled, mile long stack trains snaked along. Horseshoe Curve had become such a bottleneck by the mid 1990's that studies were done to see if installation of a fourth track was necessary!
