Those have my name on them, but I didn't paint them... Nice interpretation, though you may want to change my name to your own as to get credit for your own work!
rrfoose wrote:Those have my name on them, but I didn't paint them... Nice interpretation, though you may want to change my name to your own as to get credit for your own work!Wow! Chase, I am honored! I have admired your work with the South Penn for quite awhile.
Allen Hazen wrote:There's a problem with this sort of thing. You've done a nice interpretation of the 1970s "color scheme" on a modern locomotive, but the Penn Central, if it had survived, might well have changed its stripes, so to speak. The Penn Central was born and died at about the low point of the American railroad industry's economic fortunes, and its extremely austere locomotive paint scheme reflected this. (My memory is a bit hazy, but I THINK I remember a Penn Central spokesperson, about the time of the merger, reassuring the investment community that the new management wouldn't waste money on repainting all the locomotives and such!)It's very true. PC could have become like CN, from worst to first. :D I mean, CN was a badly maintained, red inked, subsidy gobbler before its rationalization. The PC map would have looked alot like Conrails, except that more routes would have been kept, like the NEC. Who knows, the P&LE and RF&P could have been added to the mix! Your comment about the N&W's colors bring me to another point. If you look at the "NW" scheme, it is IDENTICAL to the Penn Central dress with the exception of the logos! I personally think it had to do with the N&W's connections to PC/PRR, even after the 1960's divestures.
Conrail was born to this scene. It's original paint scheme was as austere as PC's, just substituting blue for black and a canopener for the mating worms. BUT, as the 1980s drew on and Conrail's (& the railroad industry in general's) fortunes improved, locomotives got more colorful. Even Norfolk and Western, whose locomotives were as plain as PC's, added graphics and speed stripes after its merger with Southern! Conrail added a white stripe along the frame with, I think, a 1989 or 1990 GE order.
Obviously, we have no way of telling what PC would have done if it had continued as a separate company. (Speaking as a philosopher with an interest in the logic of counterfactuals, I'm not sure the question even HAS an answer!) But it seems plausible that it would have livened up its image. Not, perhaps, to the extreme of BNSF's multi-striped scheme(s), but at least as much as late Conrail.
So, historically inauthentic as it may be, I'd like to see a modern PC locomotive (as a GE fan I'd rather have an ES44 than an SD70-2) with a frame stripe and... Something imaginative and high-visibility on the nose. And maybe the PC website address beneath the name on the long hood!
GulfRail wrote:Here's what I think Penn Central would roster if they were around today. Note the GP50 and GP60's inclusion. I think that the PRR's policy of six axle EMD's would dominate goods and heavy trains, while the NYC policy of four axles for intermodal and fast freight would be practiced.I'm curious...what factors other than personal preference exclude GE? Given that every Class 1 buys from them, and they are the biggest builder, a modern PC would certainly not be all EMD. Look at KCS, who had a single manufacturer roster until the introduction of the AC4400CW's....
GulfRail wrote:I think that the PRR's policy of six axle EMD's would dominate goods and heavy trains, while the NYC policy of four axles for intermodal and fast freight would be practiced.Maybe. It's fun to speculate, anyway.