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 #789041  by MB117
 
Thanks for the info guys, its funny how Guilford just got rid of the U18B's, seemed like the MEC took very good care of there equipment.
 #789051  by MEC407
 
They were good units. They pulled as well or better than the GP38s, and used less fuel. But Guilford decided that they'd rather be an all-EMD operation.
 #789083  by MEC407
 
Here is a fairly recent shot of 404 and 407:

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... id=1691330

Here's a consist that 406 was part of in 1998; it's not exactly visible in this angle, but the caption says it's in there somewhere:

http://photos.greatrails.net/s/?p=866
 #789405  by MEC407
 
Who knows. They've been sitting there for the past seven years or so; doesn't look like RTE and/or CAD are in any hurry to do anything with them, other than let them continue to sit and rot. :(
 #789450  by MB117
 
Do you think mec went out and scooped up the U25s because they had good luck with the U18s? I havent been able to find much info on the U25B's, I have seen a few pics of them in the Guilford paint but thats about it.
 #789469  by MEC407
 
I think that's probably at least part of the reason why they bought the U25Bs. The other reason is that the U25Bs were probably very inexpensive and nobody else wanted them. :wink: The U25B was GE's first serious attempt at a full size U.S.-spec roadswitcher locomotive, and it was not the best example of reliability. The U18Bs were 10 to 12 years newer than the U25Bs, and GE had made a huge number of reliability improvements during that time.
 #789548  by Cowford
 
The other reason is that the U25Bs were probably very inexpensive and nobody else wanted them.
I'd say that was key! The sight of those newly purchased units being towed in over Mountain Junction was something else... akin to a rolling junk yard.
 #789899  by atsf sp
 
MEC407 wrote:Here is a fairly recent shot of 404 and 407:

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... id=1691330
Yay, my photo. These are actually easy to see if you want to. Take Rt 20 west out of Montreal, the road one would take to Dorval. They are sitting at CAD on the right.
 #790264  by EDM5970
 
More out of curiosity than anything, what is a U-18B worth these days? Anybody know of any for sale out there? I would imagine they would bring less than a GP-9.
 #790282  by MEC407
 
I don't know of any currently for sale. Guilford wanted $60K each for the 404 and 407 back in 2003; I suspect the "going rate" might be a bit higher today due to the increased demand for four-axle roadswitchers. Probably between $60K and $75K, depending on condition.
 #790414  by EDM5970
 
$60 or 75K? Back in the day when I was brokering equipment as a sideline, (-the late Grafton and Upton S-4 was one of my deals-), an Alco or GE usually was worth about half of the equivalent EMD. But I guess the market for 752 traction motors has to be taken into account these days.
 #852390  by CFD125
 
Back in 2001, My girlfriend and I went out to the Niagara & Western New York tourist railroad in Lockport, NY.

I had spoken with the owner on the phone, and told him of the Lionel HO U18B models that I had custom painted as MEC404, and 407. I brought the models with me, and he was very impressed, and asked if I could paint one for the N&WNY.

He invited us to ride the cab of both engines on thier round trip to Medina and back.

That was a great week, with lots of action around the area.

I remember that the 407 had one of those siren shaped "air whistles" on the roof instead of normal air horns. (The brand name escapes me right now).

They also had low nose GP9 #592 on premises in harvest gold & green, but with no lettering other than the side numbers.
 #852460  by MEC407
 
CFD125 wrote:I remember that the 407 had one of those siren shaped "air whistles" on the roof instead of normal air horns. (The brand name escapes me right now).
A Hancock air whistle. Interesting creatures, those. Sound very similar to a steam whistle, but not as loud.
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