• Septa push pull overview

  • Discussion relating to Southeastern Pennsylvania Transportation Authority (Philadelphia Metro Area). Official web site can be found here: www.septa.com. Also including discussion related to the PATCO Speedline rapid transit operated by Delaware River Port Authority. Official web site can be found here: http://www.ridepatco.org/.
Discussion relating to Southeastern Pennsylvania Transportation Authority (Philadelphia Metro Area). Official web site can be found here: www.septa.com. Also including discussion related to the PATCO Speedline rapid transit operated by Delaware River Port Authority. Official web site can be found here: http://www.ridepatco.org/.

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  by mcgrath618
 
glennk419 wrote:
mcgrath618 wrote:I'm gonna take a shot in the dark and say that while the double decker trains are intended only for the NEC, Keystone Corridor, and West Trenton lines, the sprinters will be paired with Comet IIs and IIIs on the Lansdale/Norristown and Media/Elwyn (by that time Media/Wawa) lines.
The Warminster line is also at capacity and hopefully with the Jenkintown substation being online and adding capacity on this side of the railroad, we'll see some more PP's.
There are actually two PP's back on the West Trenton line right now.
I've never seen PPs on the Warminster line, but it'd be cool.
I HAVE, however, seen at least one headed to Media.
  by NorthPennLimited
 
A pretty reliable source on the inside told me there are preliminary plans to run push pulls to Warminster, Doylestown, and Norristown when the next schedule change happens.

I’m guessing the next schedule change will be daylight savings? Can anyone else confirm?
  by tgolanos
 
mcgrath618 wrote:
glennk419 wrote:
mcgrath618 wrote:I'm gonna take a shot in the dark and say that while the double decker trains are intended only for the NEC, Keystone Corridor, and West Trenton lines, the sprinters will be paired with Comet IIs and IIIs on the Lansdale/Norristown and Media/Elwyn (by that time Media/Wawa) lines.
The Warminster line is also at capacity and hopefully with the Jenkintown substation being online and adding capacity on this side of the railroad, we'll see some more PP's.
There are actually two PP's back on the West Trenton line right now.
I've never seen PPs on the Warminster line, but it'd be cool.
I HAVE, however, seen at least one headed to Media.
Warminster had PPs ages ago, like 10-12 years back (if not more recently). I left the area in 2012 and I hadn't seem the PPs on the Warminster line since before that, though.
  by zebrasepta
 
NorthPennLimited wrote:A pretty reliable source on the inside told me there are preliminary plans to run push pulls to Warminster, Doylestown, and Norristown when the next schedule change happens.

I’m guessing the next schedule change will be daylight savings? Can anyone else confirm?
Lansdale/Doylestown line can definitely use a push-pull especially for few of their express trains especially the afternoon express 6576 which does express from Temple University to North Wales.
  by zebrasepta
 
NorthPennLimited wrote:A pretty reliable source on the inside told me there are preliminary plans to run push pulls to Warminster, Doylestown, and Norristown when the next schedule change happens.

I’m guessing the next schedule change will be daylight savings? Can anyone else confirm?
Lansdale/Doylestown line can definitely use a push-pull especially for few of their express trains especially the afternoon express 6576 which does express from Temple University to North Wales.
  by sammy2009
 
Are the push-pulls still on the Trenton Line ? I'm guessing with the more push-pull runs they can move the Silverliners around and maybe more frequent trips on some lines. ?
  by CNJGeep
 
sammy2009 wrote:Are the push-pulls still on the Trenton Line ?
No. It's MUs long term because Amtrak needs equipment moved around Trenton and Ham at night, and not everyone is qualified yet.
  by CNJGeep
 
The next schedule change (3/10/19) is expected to bring a 4-Car set onto the railroad, operating all day across the system.

Keep your eyes peeled for it, it'll be going to Norristown, Elwyn (Twice), Warminster, and Doylestown, as well as Thorndale.
  by mcgrath618
 
CNJGeep wrote:The next schedule change (3/10/19) is expected to bring a 4-Car set onto the railroad, operating all day across the system.

Keep your eyes peeled for it, it'll be going to Norristown, Elwyn (Twice), Warminster, and Doylestown, as well as Thorndale.
What's the reasoning behind this? Obviously not all of these are going to be express runs, so why use push pulls?
  by njtmnrrbuff
 
Will that 4 car set be a push pull or will it be MUs?
  by ChesterValley
 
I'd be willing to bet PP. I've seen them running on Paoli I assumed they were training Engineers, not readying new service.

SEPTA also mentioned them using them for service back duing the ACS-64 release:
The new locomotives will be used to convert existing AEM-7 and ALP-44 runs on the Paoli/Thorndale, Wilmington/Newark, West Trenton, and Media/Elwyn Lines to ACS-64 locomotive runs. The new engines will also provide relief for the Silverliner IV Multiple Unit cars, which date from the early 1970's. By this October we will finally be able to say goodbye to the AEM-7 and ALP-44 locomotives.
  by mcgrath618
 
ChesterValley wrote:I'd be willing to bet PP. I've seen them running on Paoli I assumed they were training Engineers, not readying new service.

SEPTA also mentioned them using them for service back duing the ACS-64 release:
The new locomotives will be used to convert existing AEM-7 and ALP-44 runs on the Paoli/Thorndale, Wilmington/Newark, West Trenton, and Media/Elwyn Lines to ACS-64 locomotive runs. The new engines will also provide relief for the Silverliner IV Multiple Unit cars, which date from the early 1970's. By this October we will finally be able to say goodbye to the AEM-7 and ALP-44 locomotives.
We all interpreted this as the Sprinter being a helper unit. Awesome that it will actually be running a push-pull train.
  by glennk419
 
Thanks for the info guys. I'll be keeping my ears open along the Warminster branch. Would be great to have some PP's back.
  by njtmnrrbuff
 
I’d like to do some photography along the Norristown, Warminster, and Doylestown Lines this spring and hope to get these pp sets.
  by dcipjr
 
Makes sense, every time we go by Wayne Electric, it's ACS-64s laying around as far as the eyes can see. Might as well put them to use.

Does SEPTA have enough coaches to make this viable?
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