by lirr42
jamesinclair wrote:If it doesnt get collected, the ticket is still used.You are supposed to activate your ticket before you get onboard, but us humans aren't very good at following rules, are we?
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jamesinclair wrote:If it doesnt get collected, the ticket is still used.You are supposed to activate your ticket before you get onboard, but us humans aren't very good at following rules, are we?
WestfieldCommuter wrote:Doesnt work if you can activate when you see an inspector coming.jamesinclair wrote:I wonder if the end goal is to turn it into more of an honor system with occasional checks, and cut down on the number of ticket collectors needed on trains.JoeG wrote:LIRR42, you can display up to 5 tickets on 1 phone.What NJT, and all commuter rail systems in the US, should do is require you to validate your ticket before boarding, as is done with light rail.
As far as activating the ticket as the conductor approaches, how does that differ from getting out a paper ticket as he approaches? The possibilities for larceny are slightly less with the electronic ticket because once activated it expires in 2.75 hours. With a paper ticket, until the conductor actually collects it, there is a chance of re-use.
If it doesnt get collected, the ticket is still used.
My guess is that in practice (whatever the official rules are), conductors will accommodate, the lost, the brain dead, the bewildered very nicely. If the guy trying to get from Newark to Middletown, NJ, ends up on a train to Middletown, NY, decides it doesn't look right and ends up in Port Jervis, I would suspect he would be allowed to get to Middletown, NJ at no extra charge.That's not my experience with paper tickets. When somebody tells me that he rode past his stop I sell him a ticket to go back.
loufah wrote:Are MyTix tickets scanned to prevent re-use? More specifically, can I buy a Newark-Dover ticket and take a Newark-Summit train, get off at Summit, then catch the next train that stops at Summit bound for Dover? Reason is that the outbound Newark platform can be unpleasant in the cold, and I'd rather get on the first train that comes and wait somewhere else. I've had crew balk a couple times when I do this with a Trenton-Dover paper ticket, in particular, a TC who looked at my ticket as we left Summit said "this ticket is only good if you board at Newark".I don't know about Iphone tickets, but as a ticket agent, my answer is yes, why not? You are allowed to complete your journey on a connecting train or trains. Stop-overs aren't permitted on one way or round trip tickets, but connections are, as long as you get the next train out. I don't know of any rule that you have to wait at Broad St. for a through train. Maybe some trainman knows something that I don't know.
Jtgshu wrote:Keep in mind that NJT isn't really just a commuter operation anymore. There is SIGNIFICANT off peak ridership, and non-regular riders which take the train every day, all times of the day and night. Its easier to use paper tickets, especially for infrequent riders. Then the question should be asked, is it cost effective or efficient to have two types of tickets? Paper and electronic? How much money would actually be saved, in particular in the revenue department and back office stuff....Well, Transit apparently thinks it is going to be cost effective. All four ticket vending machines at my station (Middletown, NJ) have e-ticket advertising pasted on them as well as well as a couple of (what used to be TDI) posters around the station.
It works, and while there might be something that could work electronically in the not to distant future, I think the paper tickets in some form, and the people to collect them, are going to be around for some time.
philipmartin wrote:I really wish he could respond to you... believe me, I do. Unfortunately, he can't.Jtgshu wrote:Keep in mind that NJT isn't really just a commuter operation anymore. There is SIGNIFICANT off peak ridership, and non-regular riders which take the train every day, all times of the day and night. Its easier to use paper tickets, especially for infrequent riders. Then the question should be asked, is it cost effective or efficient to have two types of tickets? Paper and electronic? How much money would actually be saved, in particular in the revenue department and back office stuff....Well, JT, Transit apparently thinks it is going to be cost effective. All four ticket vending machines at my station (Middletown, NJ) have e-ticket advertising pasted on them as well as well as a couple of (what used to be TDI) posters around the station.
It works, and while there might be something that could work electronically in the not to distant future, I think the paper tickets in some form, and the people to collect them, are going to be around for some time.