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 #173487  by 4 Express
 
NYPD Reports Possible Terror Threat Against City Subways
New York 1- October 1, 2005

Sources say law enforcement officials are increasing security on New York City’s subway system after receiving word of a "credible but unsubstantiated" terror threat.

New York City officials have planned a 5:30 p.m. news conference to address the threat. NY1 will carry that announcement live.

Allegations surround a possible threat against the city's subway system, but few details are known at this time.

According to the Associated Press, Rep. Peter King, chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee, said, “Obviously, this is a significant threat.”

Published reports say the threat came from sources in the Middle East, that the information concerns an attack similar to those in London and Madrid.

NY1 will have more on this breaking news story as soon as more information becomes available. (And I will probably post it.)

 #174021  by arrow
 
Has anyone seen an increased police presence?

 #174098  by 4 Express
 
Memo Reveals Details Of Terror Plots On City's Subway System
New York 1 - October 8, 2005

Police remained on high alert Saturday more details about a terrorist threat to bomb the city's subway system emerged.

A Department of Homeland Security memo said the planned attack was set for Sunday. The memo was issued Wednesday to top state and local officials.

On Thursday, Mayor Michael Bloomberg and the police commissioner went public with the threat that terrorists planned to use timed or remote-controlled explosives hidden in briefcases, suitcases, and under strollers.

The memo says the attack might be carried out by operatives, "who may be in the New York City area."

So far three suspects have been arrested in connection with the alleged plot, all of them in Iraq. Sources say authorities are investigating whether a fourth man traveled to New York as part of the scheme.

Security remains high in the city, even though officials in Washington are downplaying the threat.

Mayor Michael Bloomberg says it is better safe, than sorry.

“If I’ve got to make a mistake it’s got to be on the side of protecting the people of this city,” the mayor said Friday morning. “In this case I don't think that we made a mistake. I think that we took the appropriate action, and hopefully we will prevent anything from happening.”

Police say officers are now conducting more random searches of back packs, bags and baby strollers, as well as more subway car sweeps.

Meanwhile, New York Civil Liberties Union has suspended its bid to stop random bag searches by police.

The NYCLU was seeking an injunction against the NYPD search policy. But now the group is asking for a two-month delay so its lawyers can examine how the latest terror alert affects the search rules.

And despite news of the terror threat to the city's subways, Friday afternoon Congress approved a Homeland Security bill freezing transit security funding and slashing grants for local first responders.

The $32 billion bill passed the Senate on a voice vote. If signed by president George W. Bush, it will increase spending on border security and bomb sniffing technology at airports.

Changes are also in store for FEMA. The bill strips the agency of some responsibilities so it can concentrate on disaster relief.

In a statement Bush said, "The resources provided by this bill will help us protect our borders, upgrade explosive detection technology in our airports, address radiological and nuclear threats and target security funding to areas with the greatest need."

Democrats say the bill shortchanges local police, firefighters and emergency medical services as well as security for passenger rail and subway systems.

 #174111  by Robert Paniagua
 
I've seen the news shots and seen the NYPD at a high presence, also conducting searches, which is a good idea (especially that they were gonna use a child stroller to carry out the now foiled massacre).

 #174206  by 4 Express
 
Mayor More Convinced Than Ever Terror Threat Is Real
New York 1 - October 9, 2005

Mayor Michael Bloomberg is standing by his decision to go public with the news of a potential terror threat on the city’s subway system on Sunday, saying officials have become more convinced over the last couple of days that the information was real.

State and local authorities learned of the threat in a memo issued by the Department of Homeland Security Wednesday and made public by the Associated Press on yesterday that said the planned attack was set for Sunday.

On Thursday, the city went public with the threat that terrorists planned to use timed or remote-controlled explosives hidden in briefcases, suitcases, and under strollers. The memo says the attack might be carried out by operatives, "who may be in the New York City area.”

Despite warnings from officials in Washington D.C. that the threat was not credible, Bloomberg and Police Commissioner Ray Kelly told the public about the alleged plot to smuggle explosives onto the subway system.

The mayor says at the end of the day, he's the one in charge of keeping New Yorkers safe.

“They have their views, but we have to make the decision,” said the mayor. “Its easy to analyze and say this is possible, that’s possible, but when it gets down to the level of a city, we've got to make a decision.”

The Department of Homeland Security issued a statement Saturday saying its director, Michael Chertoff, “Respects the mayor's judgment and believes that the security precautions being taken by Mayor Bloomberg and other New York officials are absolutely an appropriate response while this and other intelligence information continues to be examined and analyzed. The secretary also shares the mayor's view that the benefit of the doubt should be placed on the side of caution."

So far three suspects have been arrested in connection with the alleged plot, all of them in Iraq. Sources say authorities are investigating whether a fourth man traveled to New York as part of the scheme.

Security remains high in the city as a result of the threat, with police say officers are now conducting more random searches of backpacks, bags and baby strollers, as well as more subway car sweeps.

Officers from the NYPD "Atlas Team" will also be part of the security detail in the Bronx tonight when the Yankees take on the Los Angeles Angels in Game Four of the American League Division Series.

Members of the counter-terror squad will be sweeping trains bound for the game as well as patrolling the area around the stadium.

 #174949  by 4 Express
 
NYC Transit Creates HAZMAT Team To Deal With Subway Attack
New York 1 - October 11, 2005

New York City Transit is training an elite corps of workers to help emergency officials deal with a biological or chemical terrorist attack in the city’s subway system.

The volunteer HAZMAT team would be in charge of evacuating stricken passengers, getting victims medical attention, and helping police and fire officials navigate the tracks.

So far, 75 supervisors and managers have completed the 40-hour training course.

NYC Transit say that for now, motorman, conductors and other rank and file personnel are not being trained so that day-to-day subway operations will not be affected.

A new group of supervisors and managers started the training on Monday.

Terror Threat To City Subways May Have Been A Hoax
New York 1 - October 11, 2005

CNN is reporting Tuesday that the potential terror threat that has led to tight security in the subways since late last week may have been a hoax.

Sources tell CNN the informant who originally told authorities about the supposed threat to blow up New York City subways with explosives hidden in baby strollers or luggage gave false information.

Three men captured in Iraq on that information were given lie detector tests, and authorities say there is no evidence they were planning to travel to New York, or had been in contact with operatives here.

Police Commissioner Ray Kelly says there was no way of knowing just how real the threat was, and he and Mayor Michael Bloomberg are defending the decision to increase security.

“We are going to keep this city safe to the maximum possible extent we can, and if you see our police officers out on the street, in the subways, and that deters you, that is exactly what we are trying to do," said Bloomberg.

“We're all about deterrence here, we're all about prevention. That's why we kicked in what we did on the 4 to 12 tour on Thursday," said Kelly.

State and local authorities learned of the potential threat in a memo issued by the Department of Homeland Security last Wednesday and made public by the Associated Press. The memo said the attack might be carried out by operatives, "who may be in the New York City area.”

Despite warnings from officials in Washington D.C. that the threat was not credible, Bloomberg and Kelly told the public about the alleged plot to smuggle explosives into the subway system.

Security was heightened in the city as a result of the threat, with police officers conducting more random searches of backpacks, bags and baby strollers, as well as more subway car sweeps.

Now that the FBI has determined the threat was probably not real, the city is reducing that security. The NYPD says it will still conduct random bag searches in the subways, even though the number of officers is being scaled back.

Democratic hopeful Fernando Ferrer says he has questions about the heightened alert.

"I do not believe we ought to be stinting one iota in keeping New York City safe, in keeping our mass transit system and all of its riders safe,” said Ferrer. “Now that he alert has been taken down, I think it's appropriate, as I have said before, that the mayor and the police commissioner give us more clarity on the reasons why they sounded the alarm in the first place."

Ferrer said he wasn't claiming the mayor's timing was a political ploy to distract attention from criticism over Bloomberg’s decision to forgo the mayoral debate in Harlem.

However, two law enforcement groups who are backing Ferrer asked just that, and called on the mayor and the police commissioner to explain why they waited to deploy police officers.

“Why did we wait until Thursday, an hour and a half before a boycotted debate that he was receiving pressure for, to make an announcement in the heart of rush hour?” asked NYPD Capt. Eric Adams of the group 100 Blacks In Law Enforcement.

Bloomberg says he delayed the press conference so as not to jeopardize operations in Iraq, but had to go public once it became obvious security was being stepped up for Thursday's rush hour.

“Then stories started leaking out, and once stories start leaking out we have an obligation to ensure that there's not confusion among the public,” said the mayor.

While the mayor says this threat to the subways is over, his critics seem to have only just begun questioning his handling of it. And it seems unlikely that this issue will go away any time soon, at least not before the election.

 #174964  by F40
 
My mom rode the subway this past Sunday morning and afternoon on the E line and said everything seemed normal as things always have been in the past.