Discussion relating to the operations of MTA MetroNorth Railroad including west of Hudson operations and discussion of CtDOT sponsored rail operations such as Shore Line East and the Springfield to New Haven Hartford Line

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  by shadyjay
 
I recall a couple of the Amtrak FL-9s were used for work train service towards the end, around the time of the NH-Boston electrification project.
  by AmtrakP32705
 
Story I last heard with the Amtrak FL9 thing, may or may not be true..... 2 are going to Rensselaer, the remaining 4 will be scrapped. Heard it from a Genesee and Wyoming employee who will supposedly have a part in hauling them
  by blockline4180
 
AMTK822401 wrote:Story I last heard with the Amtrak FL9 thing, may or may not be true..... 2 are going to Rensselaer, the remaining 4 will be scrapped. Heard it from a Genesee and Wyoming employee who will supposedly have a part in hauling them
Wow, sad if true, but i guess that was inevitable.!
  by Noel Weaver
 
From what I have heard Connecticut will not come to a deal with New York State/Amtrak for the use of six long retired FL-9's that are collecting rust in New Haven. What a waste, no wonder the State of Connecticut is literally broke. OH WELL, It is no skin of my rear end or anybody else's on here for that matter. Connecticut is a loser on this one.
Noel Weaver
  by bdawe
 
How does the state of Connecticut's potential revenue from renting a few old rust buckets compare to the costs of potential disruption from those rust buckets breaking down in the middle of one of the busiest commuter railroads in North America and impeding travel from Connecticut by rail to and from the nation's largest metropolis?
  by Noel Weaver
 
First off on diesel the FL-9 was a very reliable locomotive, probably as good or better than the stuff running today on CDOT and Amtrak. Second the FL-9's were to be leased to the State of New York and were not slated to run in Connecticut at any time of the lease. Connecticut is literally broke but they kicked themselves in the foot this time around. What's next?, who knows, stay tuned.
Noel Weaver
  by blockline4180
 
No, only the possible modified (nose hatch?) Amtrak P32AC-DM's, otherwise just MARC cab cars... No MN Genesis engines available to lease, afaik.
  by R36 Combine Coach
 
Tadman wrote:With regard to overall safety of the Marc cab cars, South Shore runs them daily at 79mph over hundreds of crossings. With two tragic exceptions - the 1993 bridge crash and the 1998 steel truck crash - they have a very good record. This includes about five miles of street running.
Don't forget the Silver Spring wreck - all 11 fatalities in the cab car.
  by DutchRailnut
 
bdawe wrote:Is it still going to be a a reliable locomotive if pushed into service today?
Answer is absolutely no, the last two years of operation they only lasted for average of two days before having FRA issues.

as for silver springs wreck I suggest you read report, the cab car or its design had little to do with casualties .
  by Uncle Cheapo
 
Dead beyond dead, you wont even see the MARC cars soon, as they are being sent back to the owner shortly.
  by blockline4180
 
Uncle Cheapo wrote:Dead beyond dead, you wont even see the MARC cars soon, as they are being sent back to the owner shortly.
NJT can use more.... Especially with bathrooms.... Besides, the original plan was for 20, instead of the 10 they currently have..
Regardless, seems like Amtrak must have been too stupid not to realize their "stupidity" to modify their engines with a front end nose hatch.
  by DutchRailnut
 
not much left of it , its going to require another $35k for missing parts.
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